Ummm.... Bob Brunning ????

MelbourneDodger · #1 04-19-2005, 11:13 PM

OK, so I've read Bob Brunning's book as well as seen the 'Unbroken Chain' DVD and in both Bob says that it was Stevie that Mick originally wanted to join in late 1974 and not Lindsey.

But when Mick talks, he says he wanted Lindsey to join and agreed to take on Stevie as well because of the 'couple' situation.

This issue ever been brought up here??

Johnny Stew · #2 04-19-2005, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MelbourneDodger

OK, so I've read Bob Brunning's book as well as seen the 'Unbroken Chain' DVD and in both Bob says that it was Stevie that Mick originally wanted to join in late 1974 and not Lindsey.

But when Mick talks, he says he wanted Lindsey to join and agreed to take on Stevie as well because of the 'couple' situation.

This issue ever been brought up here??

According to Mick's book, it seems he did see Stevie first, and was taken with her looks. But by all accounts, it was truly Lindsey as a guitarist and singer that Mick and the band were most interested in.

I think Mr. Brunning just has his story a little mixed up.

PenguinHead · #3 04-20-2005, 12:16 AM

The obvious needs to be stated:

Fleetwood Mac at that time consisted of drummer, a bass player and keyboard player/singer. It is fact that, indeed, Mick was looking for a guitar player? I can't imagine the logic in thinking "Hey, we have no guitarist, so lets look for a singer!"

Bob got it wrong. Yet, I haven't read the book; maybe he was implying something else?

Kelly · #4 04-20-2005, 04:36 AM

Mick has told the story a bajillion times that he went to Keith Olsen's studio, looking for a studio, and Keith played Frozen Love to show Mick was the place sounded like. Mick heard Lindsey and was blown away. He called and approached LB and Lindsey said the package deal thing. Mick went to Chris and asked her how she felt about having another lady in the band and Chris said, let me meet her. Isn't that about how it went according to the key players..even Keith? Keith admitted someplace, maybe the Q and A, that he told Mick right away that LB would never leave Stevie so if he wanted HIM he would probably have to take HER.

Stew is right though...I do think Mick said he saw Stevie in the hallway at the studio before he heard FL. I am sure he thought she was smoking.

xxxmx · #5 04-20-2005, 08:31 AM

i certainly didn't buy that book so i can't give the quotes, but mick not only claims to have spotted stevie in the studio, he claims to have heard the beautiful blonde speaking to someone about going to a park to record the sound of birds rising. ok mick, so you are not only claiming to have randomly seen her in the studio, you are now claiming to have been there at the precise moment that the 'birds rising' rhiannon demo was recorded?

iiiii don't know that i believe his account, as many other events in the book come across as pure fantasy. the stevie/studio thing very well may have happened, but the rest IMO was a created memory.

xxxmx · #6 04-20-2005, 08:32 AM

ps, i am referring to mick's book not bob's.

SteveMacD · #7 04-20-2005, 08:37 AM

Bob's book is full of inaccuracies.

glitter_fades · #8 04-20-2005, 08:00 PM

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i certainly didn't buy that book so i can't give the quotes, but mick not only claims to have spotted stevie in the studio, he claims to have heard the beautiful blonde speaking to someone about going to a park to record the sound of birds rising. ok mick, so you are not only claiming to have randomly seen her in the studio, you are now claiming to have been there at the precise moment that the 'birds rising' rhiannon demo was recorded?

iiiii don't know that i believe his account, as many other events in the book come across as pure fantasy. the stevie/studio thing very well may have happened, but the rest IMO was a created memory.

I didn't read Mick's "novel" but I like in the photo history how he describes Fritz as Stevie's Bay area band and Lindsey as just the bass player. Funny, I thought LB was a founding member of Fritz and Stevie was asked to join when the first girl singer and her cousin left for college? I know Javier who took over as leader was also a late comer. A lot of things Mick said in the 80's and early 90's appears to me as reverse tunnel vision. Stevie had the highest public profile then, so Mick naturally focused on her even when his view was a little out of focus. In Rosebud from the 70's he said he heard Lindsey's guitar playing and that's what got him hooked. He never said anything about seeing Stevie first until years later.

David · #9 04-20-2005, 08:11 PM

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I didn't read Mick's "novel" but I like in the photo history how he describes Fritz as Stevie's Bay area band and Lindsey as just the bass player. Funny, I thought LB was a founding member of Fritz and Stevie was asked to join when the first girl singer and her cousin left for college?

Plus, there's that photo of Lindsey & Stevie backstage on page 198 that Mick identifies as 1980 tour ... when everybody knows which tour it was really from!!

MelbourneDodger · #10 04-21-2005, 02:19 AM

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Bob's book is full of inaccuracies.

Like 'Mirage' not being a very good album.

SteveMacD · #11 04-21-2005, 12:58 PM

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Like 'Mirage' not being a very good album.

Well, no. That's an opinion, and one that a lot of people have. I'm talking about his actual fact checking. For instance, he said that Billy Burnette was the son of Johnny Burnette, when in fact he was the son of Dorsey Burnette, and thus was the nephew of Johnny.

That DVD is even worse. He had Danny being canned BEFORE Jeremy's quitting the band. He just gets some basic facts wrong. And, I got pretty mad when he said that no Mac fans would ever put any Bob Welch-era album in their top ten, which I know is not true. There are a lot of Mac fans who put some of those albums in their top ten.

Brunning thinks that because he was in the band for three months that somehow he is an expert on the band and their fans. He presents himself as an insider and actually comes off as completely clueless. People criticize Mick for selling out the band's name, but what about Brunning? He's written lame books, put out an awful DVD, and has released CDs of Tramp material thinly disguised as Fleetwood Mac. At least Mick was there from day one!

Gypsy-Rhiannon · #12 04-21-2005, 01:44 PM

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Brunning thinks that because he was in the band for three months that somehow he is an expert on the band and their fans. He presents himself as an insider and actually comes off as completely clueless. People criticize Mick for selling out the band's name, but what about Brunning? He's written lame books, put out an awful DVD, and has released CDs of Tramp material thinly disguised as Fleetwood Mac. At least Mick was there from day one!

Bob is a genuinely nice guy....though a bit confused at times.

David · #13 04-21-2005, 05:48 PM

Fleetwood Mac may be the only megastar rock band from the 1960s & '70s that doesn't seem to be able or willing to hire a suitable biographer.

Sam graham was a lackey & a snooze (although he could strings words together into sentences), & most of the others were either illiterate (wincentsen) or uninformed (brunning, furman, walters) or irritatingly impervious to the band's achievements (clarke).

It's all yet another sign that Fleetwood Mac don't take their legacy seriously enough to feel it's worthwhile to record it.

***ThePenguin*** · #14 04-21-2005, 05:58 PM

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Fleetwood Mac may be the only megastar rock band from the 1960s & '70s that doesn't seem to be able or willing to hire a suitable biographer.

Sam graham was a lackey & a snooze (although he could strings words together into sentences), & most of the others were either illiterate (wincentsen) or uninformed (brunning, furman, walters) or irritatingly impervious to the band's achievements (clarke).

Very interesting points, all of them. And I happen to totally agree. Wincentsen's book was really a piece of work.

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It's all yet another sign that Fleetwood Mac don't take their legacy seriously enough to feel it's worthwhile to record it.

probably true. I could see John viewing it like this, totally. 'oh enough already, we've had so much written about us as it is, give it a rest!'

Maybe one day Mick will decide to hire hire someone to do a proper bio? it would HAVE to have some input from at least the 5 Rumours people...and everybody else contributing their memories would be an incredible bonus.

I'd love to do it!!! But I'd be scared you'd be less than pleased w/ it LOL.

-Lis

chiliD · #15 04-21-2005, 06:28 PM

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Sam graham was a lackey & a snooze (although he could strings words together into sentences)

I dunno...I think Graham's was pretty darned good. Although it was SO long ago, he just needs to amend it to include the next 25+ years. His ended as Rumours had just started up the charts.