Britney's prego - Page 5

strandinthewind · #61 04-13-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

If they have kids, though, I want them to be able to pay for them, so I'm all for tax breaks. However, I think I should also be paid for not having kids and going on welfare, which saves the state money. I think I should get a tax break for that.

And a bigger one than people with kids, because I have already saved the gov't tons of money, what with the educational expenses my kid doesn't have, the nonexistent health care costs, etc.

Nope - no tax breaks. Then again, I think there should be a flat personal income tax of no more than 10 - 15% with no deductions whatsoever

GateandGarden · #62 04-13-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jannieC

World-class idiots (famous and not famous) have children all the time, and sometimes they turn out to be great people.

I know. And as I told Josh twice, I took that comment that I made back.

amber · #63 04-13-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Nope - no tax breaks. Then again, I think there should be a flat personal income tax of no more than 10 - 15% with no deductions whatsoever

Whatev. It's not like you get to make up the rule right now.

I think people who have kids and are poor should get the tax break. It hurts me if their kids are all mungy, hungry, and stupid. Not to mention the kid. Flat tax - is a regressive tax, not a progressive tax - not a good idea. 15% of my income is a way bigger chunk than 15% of your income and impacts me much more adversely. But rock on with your bad middle of the road self!!!!

GateandGarden · #64 04-13-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

I don't want anyone having kids.

At all? Ever? Absolutely no one? You want the human race to become extinct in the near future?

strandinthewind · #65 04-13-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

. . . It's not like you get to make up the rule right now.

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Therein lies the problem

jannieC · #66 04-13-2005, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

I know. And as I told Josh twice, I took that comment that I made back.

You're right, Hillary, I'm sorry.

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I don't want anyone having kids.
At all? Ever? Absolutely no one? You want the human race to become extinct in the near future?

This is what I'm wondering, too. I have a hard time relating to this, as the priveledge of childbearing was taken away from me. It's all where we're coming from, I guess.

The Tower · #67 04-13-2005, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

At all? Ever? Absolutely no one? You want the human race to become extinct in the near future?

That would never happen. The urge to have sex is too great and people are stupid.

If the human race were wiped out, I wouldn't be all that upset. It's going to happen eventually one way or the other, so why worry about it.

diamondsnake · #68 04-13-2005, 08:35 PM

I'm praying for her impending spawn. This little boy or girl has the potential to be extremely messed up and I hope Britney changes her act pretty soon- she has been plain trash lately.

dissention · #69 04-13-2005, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake

I'm praying for her impending spawn. This little boy or girl has the potential to be extremely messed up and I hope Britney changes her act pretty soon- she has been plain trash lately.

Lately?

Janet · #70 04-14-2005, 08:32 AM

What bothers me is that I'm sure this was not thought out. It wasn't.

She didn't make sure the marriage was secure.
Her career isn't secure and she spends money like it's going out of style.
I'm sure she thinks it will be fun but say good bye to career and to shape for a while.
After all the tabloids, why now? Why not prove yourself a little if you can? Why rush into it like everyone expects you to do? Why *uck up on purpose??

I bet the only reason she told the press because she was sick of being called fat and zitney.

I cannot believe I even spent these last 2 minutes thinking about that girl.

And I guess everyone smokes during pregnancy. Did they say Demi was smoking too? My mom smoked with me and I'm normal...hehehehehehehe.
Seriously, get over yourself and quit smoking for 9 freaking months. If you aren't selfless enough to stop, then how you expect to be selfless enough to RAISE A CHILD?

GateandGarden · #71 04-14-2005, 09:20 AM

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You're right, Hillary, I'm sorry.

It's okay!

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This is what I'm wondering, too. I have a hard time relating to this, as the priveledge of childbearing was taken away from me...

I'm sorry about this, though.

GateandGarden · #72 04-14-2005, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

That would never happen. The urge to have sex is too great and people are stupid.

If the human race were wiped out, I wouldn't be all that upset. It's going to happen eventually one way or the other, so why worry about it.

I agree with the other points but can't understand why you "wouldn't be all that upset." I have a hard time grasping this notion that because something is inevitable, then it's not upsetting or shouldn't be upsetting. You approach death the same way. You've expressed the opinion (in one of our Pope threads) that because it's going to happen to everyone then it shouldn't be lamented at all. How can you be so numb? It must be nice. Do you imagine you would bounce back and simply say "Death is inevitable" if your partner were to die suddenly? How can you step away from the situation and be so rational and logical if it's personal?

cliffdweller · #73 04-14-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

If the human race were wiped out, I wouldn't be all that upset. It's going to happen eventually one way or the other, so why worry about it.

Nice to see you're an optimist

I agree (somewhat) with Amber. Fertility rates are out of control! We need to slow the breeding process down, and if you're going to procreate, only have 1 kid! And Do NOT give me a bunch of "only child" hoo-ha either!

jannieC · #74 04-14-2005, 10:37 AM

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It's okay!

I'm sorry about this, though.

Eh, it's okay. But of course it makes me more sensitive to someone saying people shouldn't have children. But I shouldn't take that out on others who have no idea what that's like.

The Tower · #75 04-14-2005, 11:43 AM

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I agree with the other points but can't understand why you "wouldn't be all that upset." I have a hard time grasping this notion that because something is inevitable, then it's not upsetting or shouldn't be upsetting. You approach death the same way. You've expressed the opinion (in one of our Pope threads) that because it's going to happen to everyone then it shouldn't be lamented at all. How can you be so numb? It must be nice. Do you imagine you would bounce back and simply say "Death is inevitable" if your partner were to die suddenly? How can you step away from the situation and be so rational and logical if it's personal?

I'm not numb to the concept of death, I just don't think it's all that dramatic. I see funerals as a complete waste of money. Physical death is just a condition. I have known a lot of people in my life and most of them I don't know anymore. For all I know some of them could be dead. Does it matter? Not really from my perspective. Would it be sad to know that they are no longer alive? Possibly, but not guaranteed.

The pope was 84 and in ill health when he died. No one should have been surprised or saddened that it was his time to go. Terri Schiavo had been in a persistant vegetative state for 15 years. Literally, the world was in an uproar over this woman's condition and her subsequent death.

Meanwhile, tens of thousands of people were wiped out in the Indian Ocean tsunami. Tens of thousands of people were slaughtered in the Darfur region of the Sudan. The U.S. illegally invades a sovereign nation by choice and wipes out tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians. How many of the people protesting the whole Terri Schiavo thing give a rat's ass about the civilians that died in Iraq and Sudan? If they voted for Bush, they sure as hell don't give a **** about it, which makes the whole "culture of life" concept complete and utter hypocrisy.

Death happens. Sometimes it sucks, sometimes it doesn't. Terminally ill patients who are in extreme pain or discomfort might find solace in death.

Yes, I would be devastated if my partner died. But, I would have to deal with it. I know that he is going to die and the odds are (because he's a little bit older than me and his family has a history of heart disease) that he will die before me. It'll be awful. That's why I try to enjoy the here and now, and the concept of being happy. Everyone is going to die, so why act as if that's something bad? Enjoy life while you have it. Be kind to others and hope that they are, in turn, kind to you.

In general, I don't think that death should be lamented. When lives are cut short- then I think it should not only be lamented, but steps should be taken to prevent that. Police car chases that ended up running over an innocent bystander? That's bull****. Students getting shot because gang members own firearms and can use them at will? That's bull****.

An 84 year old man who's lived a great life, has travelled the world and has lived in wealth and priviledge for the last 35 years? Hey bud, you had a nice time and you lucked out- no biggie to see you go because it is your time.