the party pooper strikes again

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

Exactly. I simply can't foresee anyone fronting the cash for her to do a travelling stage show like Midler's "Kiss My Brass". Talk about extravagant, she had a bloody orchestra with her on top of everything else. But that's because she makes a helluva lot of money when she tours and Stevie, while a little successful, doesn't. This will be a Vegas only deal, IMO.

SHe said in the interview every time she picks up the phone she seems to be playing some new place. : (As in, adding performance dates).

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by tommer

okay, been holding it too long now

a. i wish stevie won't tour this summer. i wish she'd spend her energies in the recording studio instead. it's been four years, and i'm getting older too...uh uh...

b. i pray to god that she won't become a vegas act. sharing honours with celine and elton is not really too grand an achievement to aspire to. love, let the grand costumes rest in peace, cher didn't ask for a replacement.

i'm glad that's off my chest now. thanx for listening.

Put yourself in Stevie's reeboks for a minute......your pushen 60, you've been rockin' hard for 30 year's, you want to "semi-retire" but you still want to rock and roll, to me this sound's like a dream job! No more flying all over the world (you've already done that a thousand times), bring the people to me! Who know's, maybe she'll hate this, or she can't sell enough tickets or she'll do this just once and awhile, time will tell. Beside's, I've never been to Vegas before and I can't think of a better reason to go now!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

Oh my gosh, I actually had a dream about her show, the night before last, and it was like that. I mean, bad and embarrassing in some ways. It seemed really real, too.
I was horrified, I hope she doesn't embarrass herself (at least not more than very minimally) like that, either.

I don't know. If you hear the opening strains of I Can't Wait, I'd be very worried that she's going to embarrass herself by doing those hand movements from the video...

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

SHe said in the interview every time she picks up the phone she seems to be playing some new place. : (As in, adding performance dates).

Any artist of her caliber can book dates and venues, but that doesn't mean they're going to be fronted a helluva lot of cash for it like Midler or Cher or Madonna. There's no way, in my opinion, that she's going to take her Vegas act on the road because it would be too cost prohibitive. She doesn't make much money on the road as a solo act, so it would be kind of stupid for promoters to sink lots of cash into one of her tours; they'd just be throwing money away.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

I don't know. If you hear the opening strains of I Can't Wait, I'd be very worried that she's going to embarrass herself by doing those hand movements from the video...

Now I'm scared again. I was really scared after the dream, because I hadn't even thought of that possibility - Everything was rainbows and butterflys in my head. But then I saw the other side of how it could be. Anyway, I'm sure it will be fine *premonition*

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

Any artist of her caliber can book dates and venues, but that doesn't mean they're going to be fronted a helluva lot of cash for it like Midler or Cher or Madonna. There's no way, in my opinion, that she's going to take her Vegas act on the road because it would be too cost prohibitive. She doesn't make much money on the road as a solo act, so it would be kind of stupid for promoters to sink lots of cash into one of her tours; they'd just be throwing money away.

OH, yeah, not her vegas show. Sorry, I misread.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

OH, yeah, not her vegas show. Sorry, I misread.

I would certainly love to see Stevie try her hand at a show like Midler's. A full orchestra, being lowered down from rafters on a carousel horse, having an amusement park for a stage, special videos and short movies made specifically for the big screen (the one Bette did with Judge Judy was a riot), etc. It would be hilarious and incredibly entertaining.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by dissention

She's bound to embarrass herself somehow because this is going to be an extravagant Vegas show; a little bitty stage show a la everything she's done in the past will not fly in Vegas. I'm worried, but I'm also optimistic at the chance of hearing some old songs. I just hope that she doesn't truly embarrass herself by attempting to do a big, theatrical, high-energy show when she simply cannot do it these days.

It sounds to me like her actual stage set is going to be much more elaborate than usual with lots of film in the background and i'm sure a **** ton of chiffon that could cloth a small third world country. There are plenty of acts in Vegas that are not high energy and still well done and well received. I don't think her fans expect high energy but random patrons may...especially for that kind of money. However, i'm optimistic she will have a good four day run and above all, enjoy herself and maybe gain a few new fans. To me, she's always a crowd pleaser and it sounds like most of her big fans will be in the front sections so it's not like she has to worry about sour reactions. In my eyes, she could walk onstage wearing pasties singing Mary Had a Little Lamb and i'd probably still cheer her on. Point being, I don't think she's going to embarass herself with whatever she may or may not do.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

I would certainly love to see Stevie try her hand at a show like Midler's. A full orchestra, being lowered down from rafters on a carousel horse, having an amusement park for a stage, special videos and short movies made specifically for the big screen (the one Bette did with Judge Judy was a riot), etc. It would be hilarious and incredibly entertaining.

um...Stevie's not really hilarious, though. She's pretty serious about her "very personal, very emotional" songs. It's great for Bette, though.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

It sounds to me like her actual stage set is going to be much more elaborate than usual with lots of film in the background and i'm sure a **** ton of chiffon that could cloth a small third world country. There are plenty of acts in Vegas that are not high energy and still well done and well received. I don't think her fans expect high energy but random patrons may...especially for that kind of money. However, i'm optimistic she will have a good four day run and above all, enjoy herself and maybe gain a few new fans. To me, she's always a crowd pleaser and it sounds like most of her big fans will be in the front sections so it's not like she has to worry about sour reactions. In my eyes, she could walk onstage wearing pasties singing Mary Had a Little Lamb and i'd probably still cheer her on. Point being, I don't think she's going to embarass herself with whatever she may or may not do.

Let us hope that you're right.

[amber]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

It sounds to me like her actual stage set is going to be much more elaborate than usual with lots of film in the background and i'm sure a **** ton of chiffon that could cloth a small third world country. There are plenty of acts in Vegas that are not high energy and still well done and well received. I don't think her fans expect high energy but random patrons may...especially for that kind of money. However, i'm optimistic she will have a good four day run and above all, enjoy herself and maybe gain a few new fans. To me, she's always a crowd pleaser and it sounds like most of her big fans will be in the front sections so it's not like she has to worry about sour reactions. In my eyes, she could walk onstage wearing pasties singing Mary Had a Little Lamb and i'd probably still cheer her on. Point being, I don't think she's going to embarass herself with whatever she may or may not do.

OH, that's right, she was talking about tons of video. That will be excellent, I hope i don't cry through the whole thing. Yes, I'm sure it will be fine.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by dissention

Exactly. I simply can't foresee anyone fronting the cash for her to do a travelling stage show like Midler's "Kiss My Brass". Talk about extravagant, she had a bloody orchestra with her on top of everything else. But that's because she makes a helluva lot of money when she tours and Stevie, while a little successful, doesn't. This will be a Vegas only deal, IMO.

You also must remember...a lot of people consider Midler to be more of a performer. Stevie is a rockstar and doesn't have a big schtick like Midler (aside from her clothes). Midler doesn't tour all of the time...Stevie tours A LOT. Therefore, when Midler tours, people go because they don't know when they'll see her again. Stevie has toured and or performs in some fashion nearly every year since 97'. It makes a difference, IMO.

[MacMan]

But that's because she makes a helluva lot of money when she tours and Stevie, while a little successful, doesn't

How often does Bette even tour? She's almost like a Cher personality whereby you aren't just there to see a singer, you are there to see an entertainer all around.

Stevie's on the road seems every second year or so.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

um...Stevie's not really hilarious, though. She's pretty serious about her "very personal, very emotional" songs. It's great for Bette, though.

Stevie never fails to make me crack up with her pseudo-seriousness, dear. If only she would actually show more of herself on stage instead of being as reserved as she's been in recent years. She was bloody hilarious around the the time Street Angel came out. That Mark and Brian Show interview is one of her best, it had me in TEARS.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by dissention

Let us hope that you're right.

And if all else fails, we'll all go and get ****faced and forget it ever happened