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Old 03-07-2005, 11:21 PM
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C'mon, woudn't it be great to hear Stevie and Don sing The Highwayman? Or how about The Last Worthless Evening? They could make a great duet out of that.
It's not the end of the world.

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Old 03-07-2005, 11:47 PM
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Maybe LB will make a guest appearance and they can do "Life in the Fast Lane."
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Old 03-07-2005, 11:53 PM
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Maybe LB will make a guest appearance and they can do "Life in the Fast Lane."
Or LB can send flowers to Stevie and pretend they're from Don
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:18 AM
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:34 AM
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C'mon, woudn't it be great to hear Stevie and Don sing The Highwayman? Or how about The Last Wothless Evening? They could make a great duet out of that.
It's not the end of the world.
That would rock. She was supposed to sing it at AHI '01 and even talked about rehearsing it on the radio, but for whatever reason opted for Leather & Lace again. I think it would sound fantastic, and even if it missed the mark I'd admire her more for trying it than for going with the safe choice.

I actually like Don & wouldn't mind seeing him. I could do without the more expensive tix, shorter individual sets, and higher competition for good seats, but I'd still go. If I disliked the idea that much there's always the alternative of staying home . Who knows if it'll even happen.
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Old 03-08-2005, 03:02 AM
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C'mon, woudn't it be great to hear Stevie and Don sing The Highwayman? Or how about The Last Wothless Evening? They could make a great duet out of that.
It's not the end of the world.
I was thinking about that myself. It would be pretty fantastic to hear them do The Highwayman. Even Reconsider Me would be pretty cool.
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:29 AM
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I was thinking about that myself. It would be pretty fantastic to hear them do The Highwayman. Even Reconsider Me would be pretty cool.
I think Reconsider me would be great. She could definitely handle it vocally.
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:29 AM
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Rock on Aimee Mann...one of the greatest songwriters of our time (right up there with Bernie Taupin). No only did she protest that erroneous compilation album...she pretty much said f-you to record industry machine.

Several years ago (after years of being screwed around by her big label) she submitted an album that they rejected, wanting something different. For the sake of her art, and not wanting to bow down the idiotic studio bosses, she bought the album back...and went completely independent! She released it herself. She's now on indie label and doing very well. She performs in Portland frequently, and I never pay more than $25 to see her. Much respect for Aimee. Check her out!


Aimee Mann is the ****. Such a beautiful, expressive voice and one of the best songwriters ever. Everyone should check her out, she's awesome.
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:32 AM
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Do you guys realize Sheryl's producing track record includes That Made Me Stronger, Too Far From Texas and It's Only Love.
Yes and they were produced well. You may not like these songs and hell, they may not be the best Stevie has ever done, but I think Sheryl did a damn fine job with what she had to work with. I like TFFT and IOL anyway so take my opinion with a grain of salt. TMMS is kind of a ridiculous song lyric-wise, but I think everything else about the song works.
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:37 AM
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Just because the songs themselves are lackluster, it doesn't mean the production is. That Made Me Stronger is a piece of stellar production to these ears, as much I despise the song, and the same goes for It's Only Love, which I adore completely. Don't forget, too, that Sheryl essentially produced Crystal and If You Ever Did Believe. While I'm not a huge fan of those two, I still think that next to Lindsey, she comes closest to understanding Stevie when it comes to production.
couldn't have said it better m'self.
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:38 AM
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Aimee Mann is the ****. Such a beautiful, expressive voice and one of the best songwriters ever. Everyone should check her out, she's awesome.
Plus, she's from Boston.
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:23 PM
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I actually like Don & wouldn't mind seeing him. I could do without the more expensive tix, shorter individual sets, and higher competition for good seats, but I'd still go. If I disliked the idea that much there's always the alternative of staying home . Who knows if it'll even happen.
I agree. As long as we are not subjected to $350 ticket prices, I can live with it.
I may only go to one or two shows, though.
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:24 PM
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Plus, she's from Boston.


Have you been to her site recently? It's been updated for her new album and they have three of the songs up for download. Goodbye Caroline is my favorite one.
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:51 PM
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Sheryl also produced "If You Ever Did Believe" and "Crystal." I personally love the sound of all seven tracks.
Sheryl's a capable producer & studio leader: she knows her stuff & she's got the chops, thanks in large part to the At-The-Knee Syndrome. I don't consider her one of the great producers -- she doesn't advance the craft, she just dwells within its parameters. But I don't think it's her aim to create a "cinematic" producer out of herself in the tradition of Phil Spector, Brian Wilson or George Martin.

I think "It's Only Love" is her best production on "Shangri-La"; the fuzz-jangle electric wending its way through the fabric is a toughening touch, & an obvious nod to Clapton.
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One thing I don't recall any of us touching upon in the past, is the fact that Stevie co-produced most of the tracks with Shanks and Crow. I wonder what level of involvement she had... I'd assume it must have been something fairly substantial to warrant a co-production credit on those particular tracks as opposed to any of the others.
"Fairly substantial" is fairly vague. My guess is that Stevie doesn't sit at the board, or at least directly in front of it. Jimmy Iovine once told an interviewer on the radio how Stevie stood behind him (literally or figuratively) for the mixing of the live "Edge of Seventeen" for the 7-inch single. He pushed the sliders, she said "I like it" or "I don't like it." That's probably as good an indication as any of what she does in the studio when she's not laying down a vocal track. Seriously involved production & engineering in a recording studio -- especially these days -- takes a certain inclination of mind & a playful approach to technology that Stevie, Christine & John seem not to have or want.
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I do agree that the tight "live band" sound of her earliest solo work sets it apart from her later albums, and gives those recordings a certain charm and vitality.
I don't think you can hold "Bella Donna" or "The Wild Heart" up as examples of self-reflexive, producerly production. Iovine essentially brought the L.A.-area session players together, mic'd them properly (an engineering task that apparently Shelly Yakus played a part in), rehearsed them a bit, & then let them play . . . & that was how most or all of those tracks were done.

The tipoff is that when you watch them play a show from 1981, the song sounds almost exactly the way it does on the album (barring the variations in ambience & mix that you'd expect from a stage & a soundboard).

Iovine's "understanding" of Stevie is -- or was -- essentially nothing more than understanding that she & her band sounded good live, with clean, dry signals & a minimum of post-amp FX.
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Old 03-08-2005, 01:39 PM
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Have you been to her site recently? It's been updated for her new album and they have three of the songs up for download. Goodbye Caroline is my favorite one.
Awesome!! Thanks for the heads-up! I thought Lost in Space was a masterpiece.
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