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Old 02-18-2005, 06:56 PM
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Probably he would receive messages like those, but he would also receive some messages from nice fans. There are some you know. If I were in him I wouldn't have done it, and personally I have nothing to say or ask to him, but if he came on a message board he thinks to be able to handle the experience, who am I to tell he's wrong?

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I talked to him once. I didn't ask him any questions about Stevie...and I would probably be considered a "chiffon head". Someone contacted me about sending him the rumours outtakes so he can see video footage of Robin, so IMEd him, got his address and sent them on there way. So yes, we aren't all out to dig up dirt on Stevie and get her phone number, connections, ect... I was just happy to send him the footage of his mom considering he's never even heard her voice.
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Old 02-18-2005, 07:59 PM
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Does this young guy Matt know that by introducing his true identity into the online fan world, he is leaving himself wide open to all the pushy, rabid, chiffon-wearing busybodies who populate that world?
Well, he is pretty young.
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Old 02-18-2005, 08:01 PM
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Exactly. I can already imagine the blizzard of inane and invasive questions that have been foisted on this guy.

"Stevie is sleeping with Lindsey, isn't she!!??? Isn't she!!?!?"
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Old 02-18-2005, 08:13 PM
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yes, I'm sure - maybe there was another part to his name, but that was basically it. I'm hardly likely to hallucinate something like that.
I saw a screen name similar to that also.
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Old 02-18-2005, 09:02 PM
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I saw a screen name similar to that also.
Sweet. I think I was up late when I saw it. I hope no one bugs him, I for one have no desire to ask him anything at all Mainly because I don't think he knows much...and if he did, I would feel like a piece of crap if I bugged him
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Old 02-18-2005, 09:44 PM
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I talked to him once. I didn't ask him any questions about Stevie...and I would probably be considered a "chiffon head". Someone contacted me about sending him the rumours outtakes so he can see video footage of Robin, so IMEd him, got his address and sent them on there way. So yes, we aren't all out to dig up dirt on Stevie and get her phone number, connections, ect... I was just happy to send him the footage of his mom considering he's never even heard her voice.
Wow--that's so sad. I'm glad you were able to pass those outtakes on to him of Robin.
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Old 02-18-2005, 11:58 PM
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Stevie has plenty of fans who would treat someone like Matthew with respect and sensitivity.

Unfortunately, as with all groups of people, there is a small faction of folks who exhibit less than admirable behaviour in a very loud and noticeable way, and the rest of Stevie's fans get stereotyped in the process.

Hopefully Matthew will encounter far more of the former than he does the latter.
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:24 AM
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Well, he is pretty young.
Isn't he . . . what? 22?
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:29 AM
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Unfortunately, as with all groups of people, there is a small faction of folks who exhibit less than admirable behaviour in a very loud and noticeable way, and the rest of Stevie's fans get stereotyped in the process.
How many sucky Stevie fans would you say I've met, heard from or witnessed in my day? One of these days, I'm gonna publish my memoirs!
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Old 02-19-2005, 09:17 AM
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Is everyone who posts on the BN board considered "rabid, chiffon heads"? Just curious.

Perhaps he visited the Ledge, scanned the numerous threads regarding Stevie's Mac truck ass, her ugly shoes, bland hair, matronly clothes, pancake makeup, lack of energy, her terrible lyrics on SYW, her miserable attempts at singing Rhiannon this tour and decided he would RATHER post at the BN board?

I agree, he has opened himself up to potential problems by posting and there are some really immature fans around. I think it is ridiculous and embarrassing that so many young fans have PM'd him....I am sure that will drive him away pretty quickly. (not you Riss or Beck)
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Old 02-19-2005, 09:45 AM
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How many sucky Stevie fans would you say I've met, heard from or witnessed in my day? One of these days, I'm gonna publish my memoirs!
Maybe you should publish instead a list of all the Stevie fans you've met with small tambourines to rank them instead.

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Old 02-19-2005, 10:11 AM
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Stevie has plenty of fans who would treat someone like Matthew with respect and sensitivity.

Unfortunately, as with all groups of people, there is a small faction of folks who exhibit less than admirable behaviour in a very loud and noticeable way, and the rest of Stevie's fans get stereotyped in the process.

Hopefully Matthew will encounter far more of the former than he does the latter.
Thank you, Johnny. And I might add that it's not necessary to be disrespectful to all of us by lumping everyone in with those who lack the judgement and maturity to control themselves and behave in a less than obnoxious way. I won't pretend those people don't exist, but it would be nice to hear some qualifiers when they are discussed, such as "some rabid fans" or "those fans who..."

I too think it's odd that Matthew has welcomed IMs from anyone and everyone in Stevieland. I can only imagine that he might be lonely or wanting some positive attention or just having some fun with being a minor celebrity for a while. Whatever his motives, I hope he gets what he wants.

And no, Kelly, not everyone who posts on the bn board is a "rabid chiffon head." But you know, I'm not so sure there's anything wrong with being a chiffon head anyway...it's the "rabid" part I have a quarrel with.

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Old 02-19-2005, 10:25 AM
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I talked to him once. I didn't ask him any questions about Stevie...and I would probably be considered a "chiffon head". Someone contacted me about sending him the rumours outtakes so he can see video footage of Robin, so IMEd him, got his address and sent them on there way. So yes, we aren't all out to dig up dirt on Stevie and get her phone number, connections, ect... I was just happy to send him the footage of his mom considering he's never even heard her voice.
You've been very kind to do that.

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Old 02-19-2005, 10:34 AM
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Is everyone who posts on the BN board considered "rabid, chiffon heads"? Just curious.

Perhaps he visited the Ledge, scanned the numerous threads regarding Stevie's Mac truck ass, her ugly shoes, bland hair, matronly clothes, pancake makeup, lack of energy, her terrible lyrics on SYW, her miserable attempts at singing Rhiannon this tour and decided he would RATHER post at the BN board?

I agree, he has opened himself up to potential problems by posting and there are some really immature fans around. I think it is ridiculous and embarrassing that so many young fans have PM'd him....I am sure that will drive him away pretty quickly. (not you Riss or Beck)
You are generoulising just as much as others when they call BN posters chiffon heads. There is much more on the ledge than the type of threads you suggested

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Is everyone who posts on the BN board considered "rabid, chiffon heads"? Just curious.

Did anyone say that the chiffon head description only fit the members of BN...many of whom post here at the Ledge? From what I've seen over the years, that term is used quite freely by many fans and I've never seen it used to only fit the shipper community. Is there sensitivity on the BN board about that term?


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Perhaps he visited the Ledge, scanned the numerous threads regarding Stevie's Mac truck ass, her ugly shoes, bland hair, matronly clothes, pancake makeup, lack of energy, her terrible lyrics on SYW, her miserable attempts at singing Rhiannon this tour and decided he would RATHER post at the BN board?

Perhaps Mathew visited the BN message board and loved the way Stevie is portrayed in this deep affair with a married man and how they can't keep their hands off each other or their feelings under control, even in the presence of his wife and children. Maybe he's drawn to the bashing of Mrs.Buckingham's appearance and the threads portraying her as nothing but a baby machine who traps her husband again and again. Of course, I'm leaving out the riveting threads where the paternity of the Buckingham children was discussed and how they might not be Lindsey's. Of course there was also some discussion about Stevie being their biological mother, that was riveting reading and one of the best theories I've ever read about their post Dance relationship. I could go on but you get the idea.

Perhaps Mathew didn't stick around the Ledge long enough and see all the good conversation in the thousands of threads here that aren't pointing out Stevie's problems Fans seem to find the boards they feel most comfortable reading or posting. If Mathew would RATHER stay over at BN because he feels more comfortable there or likes the shipper aspect and the other great things about the BN board, who cares? The Ledge can be intimidating to many people and some jump right in and others lurk for a long time and never post but read this board. From what I saw a few months ago, Mathew first surfaced on Mick's site wanting to contact him and Mandy pointed him in the right direction. He didn't choose to stay at that site and he found BN more appealing for one reason or another.

I think most people reading this board can see there are far more fans here who adore Stevie then people who truly don't care for her. Since this site is a FM site and not a SN site it's only natural that some fans wouldn't like Stevie the same way some don't care for Lindsey. It's not really that big a deal and for the most part, the Ledge would be pretty boring if there was only mass adulation for the members of FM and no one was ever able to openly criticize what they see as some of their shortcomings. I think that was the feeling over at Mick's site when the heavy handed management wouldn't allow any negative comments or discussions about band members or management and removed the posts. I think the diversity here at the Ledge has something to do with its success. I would think at one time or another most of us have gotten tired of some of the Stevie bashing, I know I have. When any discussion takes a turn that I'm tired of reading for the 1000th time, I just stop reading that thread.

You can paint any board with the same brush you're using. I've seen you post numerous times on the BN board putting down the people on the Ledge and the Ledge board itself. I've seen you post on one board here knocking the people who post on some other boards on this site. I don't see a lot of other people doing that here at the Ledge.

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I agree, he has opened himself up to potential problems by posting and there are some really immature fans around. I think it is ridiculous and embarrassing that so many young fans have PM'd him....I am sure that will drive him away pretty quickly. (not you Riss or Beck)

I'm glad you're giving Marissa and Becky a thumbs up and that you don't paint them with the brush you're using to portray other people who might have contacted Mathew. I'm sure their motives are totally pure and its nice for you to stand up for them.......even though you don't know what motives others might have had. I haven't read the threads at BN about this but it seems from the posts in this thread that Mathew went out of his way to give out his contact info and was interested in fans contacting him. It doesn't surprise me that many fans with different motives are contacting him, its a fan community and that's what usually happens. To tell you the truth, I find it even funnier to see a few very special fans who chase anyone they even suspect might have contact with anyone associated with the band, I can't believe they don't realize how obvious their motives seem to people watching it and to use your word...how ridiculous they look. But they keep right on doing it, I hope all their hard works pans out one day, it would be a shame to see all that time and energy they put into their pursuits not get them their dreams. Sometimes I feel sorry for their unsuspecting targets who don't realize they're being used by these people and what their real motives are.

Some of us are glad there's a diverse group of FM related message boards but no one board is ever going to appeal to or not annoy every FM fan. I'm assuming since you post at both the BN board and the Ledge you find interesting things about both boards.

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