Grammys

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

I know! And considering it's at a farm, I wouldn't mind a roll in the hay with a certain member of the band.

*ahem* I would say members. And I pick "by the tree" But seriously, it would be cool just to be there. It's funny, even when i'm hanging with BF's who record and play music, I'm like..."yeah, yeah, we'll have sex later, so, can you teach me this? what're you gonna do with this song? Can you play this one again? What about this harmony? Don't you think the bass line could be funkier?"

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

My feelings exactly. That's my favorite part, and I was also disappointed that there wasn't more in Destiny Rules. Ok, I was also disappointed that more of the good fights weren't shown, but mainly the recording part. I always go with my friends and stuff to that kind of sh**. I also wanted to learn it, but...that's quite an undertaking. Seriously, that's awesome, maybe you can alert me when it gets underweigh. (way?) yeah, way.

Most definitely. I can't wait to hear the new songs...

As entertaining as the bitching was on DR, it could have something truly great if it showed them at work as artists and musicians. To see Lindsey work out the music to a song or to see Stevie work out lyrics would have been fab. They just teased us instead. Grrrrr.

[wondergirl9847]

Grammy Awards Get Lowest Rating Since '95

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

NEW YORK - From J.Lo to James Brown, Usher to U2, the Grammys (news - web sites) had it all this year — except a lot of interested viewers. An estimated 18.8 million people watched Ray Charles' swan song clean up with eight awards Sunday night, a startling 28 percent drop from the 2004 Grammys.

After two years on an upswing, Grammy ratings sunk to their lowest level since 1995, according to Nielsen Media Research. It may be an ominous sign for the granddaddy of awards shows, the Academy Awards (news - web sites), Feb. 27 on ABC.

People at CBS and elsewhere in the industry were somewhat perplexed by the numbers on Monday, given that the show was jam-packed with performances and star power.

"This was the show to beat in terms of how it was produced," said Shari Anne Brill, a television analyst for Carat USA. "It was just great. It wasn't about someone handing out awards. It was about performances. Viewers who didn't tune in missed a treat."

The Grammys, which has a long history of being derided as the Grannies within the music industry, even drew an endorsement from one of pop's potentates. "I think this is the best Grammys we've ever seen," U2 lead singer Bono said as the group accepted an award toward the show's end.

It was a continuation of a recent Grammy trend of minimizing awards presentations and maximizing live performances.

While there were misfires — the cacophonous opening number where several acts briefly played different songs all at once — there were plenty of thrills. Alicia Keys' smoldering "If I Ain't Got You," Kanye West's resurrection, the duet between Usher and Brown and songs by Green Day and U2 all come to mind.

CBS spokesman Chris Ender noted last year's show benefited from Janet Jackson (news)'s Super Bowl fallout. Controversy sells.

Brill agreed: "Don't you think if Michael Jackson (news) did a duet with someone with his trial going on, more viewers would have come?"

ABC is also much more competitive. "Desperate Housewives" had more viewers than the Grammys in the same time slot on Sunday, Nielsen said. But there was little evidence that many people switched over to the Grammys when "Desperate Housewives" was done.

Charles' big win could have been a hindrance, too. While a music legend, his best work may have been a mystery to many young viewers. Since he died last June, viewers were denied heartwarming scenes of him basking in the glory.

It continues a trend of less-than-stellar ratings for awards shows.

The Emmys last fall had its smallest audience ever. The Golden Globes last month had its fewest viewers since returning to broadcast television in 1996, down a whopping 10 million people from 2004. The 12.9 million people who watched the American Music Awards in November was a distant echo of the 48 million who tuned in two decades ago.

"I'm wondering if there are so many awards shows that they have lost some of their specialness," Brill said.

The Academy Awards, frequently the year's second-highest-rated entertainment event after the Super Bowl, usually considers itself immune from such outside factors. But big-box office films tend to juice the ratings — the Oscars (news - web sites) haven't approached the 55 million who watched when "Titanic" won in 1998 — and this year has no dominant film.

Host Chris Rock may draw in the curious, particularly with his unique brand of promotion. The Internet's Drudge Report on Monday was circulating excerpts from a recent Entertainment Weekly interview where Rock said, "What straight black man sits there and watches the Oscars? Show me one!"

ABC has been more aggressive promoting an event that usually sells itself.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

*ahem* I would say members. And I pick "by the tree" But seriously, it would be cool just to be there. It's funny, even when i'm hanging with BF's who record and play music, I'm like..."yeah, yeah, we'll have sex later, so, can you teach me this? what're you gonna do with this song? Can you play this one again? What about this harmony? Don't you think the bass line could be funkier?"

One is enough for moi.

I went to college right next to Northampton, MA and got to hang around so many amazing bands. I didn't dare say a word to them for fear of having my head bitten off, but I can totally picture hearing some of them on the radio. Or I could just be having good memories from college when in reality they sucked as musicians. Who knows, really. But the atmosphere was fab.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

Most definitely. I can't wait to hear the new songs...

As entertaining as the bitching was on DR, it could have something truly great if it showed them at work as artists and musicians. To see Lindsey work out the music to a song or to see Stevie work out lyrics would have been fab. They just teased us instead. Grrrrr.

I know. My very favorite part was when they were all trying to work out "world turning" at the end. I was like "why the f*** didn't we see this kind of rehearsal through the whole damn doc?! " And I thought their bitching was minor compared to what they could've shown, an all out angry fight thingy. I mean, C'mon, that bitching was just barely snark. I wanna see the big shebang, if you're going to show an argument! Less talk, more rock, as they say.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

One is enough for moi.

I went to college right next to Northampton, MA and got to hang around so many amazing bands. I didn't dare say a word to them for fear of having my head bitten off, but I can totally picture hearing some of them on the radio. Or I could just be having good memories from college when in reality they sucked as musicians. Who knows, really. But the atmosphere was fab.

That sounds great. That's the thing about some people sucking as musicians, though, if you know them, and you're all just having beers and such, you can't help but say something. But there's been lots of times where I kept my mouth shut, and still enjoyed the process immensely, like you say. (though it can be slow. I used some of that downtime to play in my head of what should be in the song. )
Either way, I am always jealous and want a studio and want to know what to do with it and how to play a bunch of instruments. That's one of the ways I really relate to Linds. I can see being locked in the studio, totally absorbed, for bazillions of days. How fun!

[Nixxxed]

Originally Posted by wondergirl9847

"I'm wondering if there are so many awards shows that they have lost some of their specialness," Brill said.

It seems like there's an awards show of some kind every 2 weeks between, say, September and May. And they all pretty much suck.

[GODDESS6]

Originally Posted by catinthedark

OMG - she took that song, threw it down, stomped the sh*t out of it, tore it up, and kicked its a$$! That made watching this whole damn show worth it.

I TOTALLY F*CKIN' AGREE, IT WAS AMAZING, TEARED ME UP, JANIS WOULD B PROUD!!!~

[sparky]

Originally Posted by dissention

to see Stevie work out lyrics would have been fab.

WORK OUT LYRICS ?????

You know those words go straight from the journal to the cd sleeve.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by sparky

WORK OUT LYRICS ?????

You know those words go straight from the journal to the cd sleeve.

Oh, come one, you don't think her and Lindsey had more fights over her inane ramblings?! Puhleeze! I'd be willing to bet he looked over those suckers for days to get her change them. That's what I mean, my love. She writes **** down and calls it poetry. NO work is done after the fact.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by dissention

Oh, come one, you don't think her and Lindsey had more fights over her inane ramblings?! Puhleeze! I'd be willing to bet he looked over those suckers for days to get her change them. That's what I mean, my love. She writes **** down and calls it poetry. NO work is done after the fact.

I knew you would clarify me into satisfaction.

[amber]

Originally Posted by sparky

WORK OUT LYRICS ?????

You know those words go straight from the journal to the cd sleeve.

I have to agree, Lindsey and Steve-ish shouldn't work out lyrics.
They should only work out HARMONIES people...
I mean, sure, we'd all like to watch when they work out lyrics, but lets keep the traffic moving, people...let the ambulances do their job!
I'd rather see more music than senseless Carnage.
God, I really hate it when anyone is FORCED to compare themselves to Bob Dylan (Please, Stevie, I love you, but lets bring it down a notch) because of a minor "Grammatical, Switching Pronoun" problem. (Lindsey? Hello? Can we not let it go? Stevie has always written like this, after all. Don't tell me you are suprised. You're just nitpicking for the sake of it, mr. pompous. And P.S.??? Kids??? You both need each other.)

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by amber

God, I really hate it when anyone is FORCED to compare themselves to Bob Dylan (Please, Stevie, I love you, but lets bring it down a notch) because of a minor "Grammatical, Switching Pronoun" problem.

Just a general comment, not really directed at you.
But I've often thought Stevie's Bob Dylan comment was blown out of proportion. Stevie never said her talents COMPARE to Bob Dylan's... only that, much like him, she writes in a particular style which doesn't always follow the "rules." And that no one tells Bob Dylan that he needs to follow those rules, so she'd prefer to not be told either.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by Livia

I thought it was one of the best Grammy shows ever. Although, I thought a jam session of the lifetime achievement award winners would have been better than the southern rock tribute. Can you imagine? Pinetop Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis and Led Zeppelin??? Hell, yeah!

Led Zeppelin should have AT LEAST performed one song. Jeezus! And Robert Plant wasn't even there? Is that right? It's kind of funny acually....

I wonder if all three original members will ever share a stage together again.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Weiland sounded like he was doing his best Englebert Humperdink imitation on the tsunami song. WTF was that?

Exactly! I turned to my hubby and said that it sounded like rock and roll parody, like he was making fun of rock singing. I laughed my ass off!! He sounds good with his bands, wtf happened at the grammys?!?!?