Hidden Costs of Bush Budget will soar AFTER he leaves office

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

I wouldn't want you to pass out from delight, who would I talk to?

would you like to borrow one of my many personalities I find them very conversant

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

would you like to borrow one of my many personalities I find them very conversant

As if I need another one.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by Lux

WTF? You're going to use that line of defence? If so, then when it comes to military atrocities and scandals, you can pretty much eliminate the male of the species from ever entering the military. Are you really willing to say that women have caused more military scandals?

No, Men are cause of military scandals too!!! I was just saying that some of the most recent and most public ones have been involving women! Oh men too have caused a lot of scandals too, maybe even more than the women!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by heyjupiter678

Is there anything on which you don't side with Ann?

Yes, there is actually! Ann believes that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. I disagree with that. But other than that I agree with most everything she says.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

As if I need another one.

Well, several of mine got mad at me and along with my genitalia, which justifiably was incensed at the neglect if not nonuse, and up and went on vacation without me. Thus, I am a little sketchy and seemingly full of estrogen - though I did receive a post card from them that was a picture of them by the shore ne' the edge

Can you tell it has been one of those days

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

You're probably right. I fear the day brwn_eyes decides to breed. And if he's reading this...please....don't.

I know lots of WOMEN (not men but WOMEN) who don't think that women should be allowed in the army/military. So I guess Ann and other women who are against it are misogynistic? I mean in all honesty (oh GOD I know where this conversation is going to head now!) men and women are built very differently. There are things that women are better at that men can't do and visa versa.

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

True and the R as jerks - I never said any differently did I?

It's not that you've said it differently, it's just that you tend to add the "but, democrats are just as bad", which then has the aura of letting them off the hook a little bit. And I don't think the democrats are just as bad, which is why I pointed out that legislative intent and advocacy should be the point of judgement.

But, my point is that the D's jump on board and then gloat over it - like Ted K. did with the education bill and Clinton did with the DOMA and the Don't Ask Don't Tell joke.

I never once got any impression that Clinton "gloated" over Don't Ask Don't Tell. I think he was very disappointed and saddened that he couldn't do what he wanted to do. He apologized to the gay community many times in different articles, etc., if my memory serves me correct.

There was not a whoile lot of difference there between him and W

For me, there was one big difference (and for me, probably the most important one)- I can trust in Kerry to want to do the right thing, whereas Dubya is pure, concentrated evil who is only interested in promoting the interests of the plutocracy. And that, my dear Jason, is a difference that is wider than the Grand Canyon.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Perhaps true, but I do not think rallying against the D's dilutes the fight against the R's

also, I hate it when you lump all wealthy people into some kind of boat of uncaring people. I know you know that many wealthy people are kind, caring and VERY generous. I mean thanks to the Vanderbilts and their influence, people in Tenn. get free health care at their clinic - or at least I think they used to? Also, how do we define wealthy? That kind of thinking is just defeating of the whole notion that all are equal, no matter how true it may be for some.

I am not characterizing the wealthy people as uncaring, I am not commenting on them at all at this point! I am SAYING the REPUBLICANS DONT CARE ABOUT YOU IF YOU'RE NOT WEALTHY!! WHY are you making these assumptions? And the notion of equality never meant financial equality but rather equality before the law I think.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Well, several of mine got mad at me and along with my genitalia, which justifiably was incensed at the neglect if not nonuse, and up and went on vacation without me. Thus, I am a little sketchy and seemingly full of estrogen - though I did receive a post card from them that was a picture of them by the shore ne' the edge

Can you tell it has been one of those days

I'm not touching that one, my love.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

I am not characterizing the wealthy people as uncaring, I am not commenting on them at all at this point! I am SAYING the REPUBLICANS DONT CARE ABOUT YOU IF YOU'RE NOT WEALTHY!! WHY are you making these assumptions? And the notion of equality never meant financial equality but rather equality before the law I think.

If I misunderstood you

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

be still my heart - please turn on your web cam next time you moon and link to Lux and myself

Hello?!??! I'm right here!!! Please include me in your Moonlink... jeezus.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by Lux

And so men should be kept out of the military? That goes with your statement of women being kept out.

No, that’s not the main reason that I think women shouldn't be in the military, it just helps reinforce that theory.

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by dissention

Bull****. They're guilty by complicity and by keeping silent. Show me a Dem who can get anything done and I'll show you a right-wing fundie who approves of gay marriage. When it comes to Dems, it's all about status and whether they have power or not. They don't care about much else, everything is a poll or focus group to them and how they can appeal to voters. They're losers with no real principles.

JMO, of course.

How about Henry Waxman???

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by dissention

Bull****. They're guilty by complicity and by keeping silent. Show me a Dem who can get anything done and I'll show you a right-wing fundie who approves of gay marriage. When it comes to Dems, it's all about status and whether they have power or not. They don't care about much else, everything is a poll or focus group to them and how they can appeal to voters. They're losers with no real principles.

JMO, of course.

and I submit to you that the question is MOOT because the prospect of any Dem getting anything done in the current Congressional makeup is a fantasy.
And, many of them DONT keep silent! I can think of several Dems from CA alone who have principles: Barbara Boxer, and George Miller. and if I wasnt at work, I'd give you more names. You may be right about a large portion of them and its shameful, but in the long run, its only the Democratic party that gives a **** about the normal everyday American. (between the two Biggies that is. I admire much in the Green party but the truth is, they just arent viable. and until they are, Im not discussing them.)

[amber]

Originally Posted by The Tower

Hello?!??! I'm right here!!! Please include me in your Moonlink... jeezus.

if you get that could you send it to me?