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Old 01-30-2005, 01:31 AM
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Well, I just named him because he foolishly wore a Nazi uniform to a party.
There were calls to end the British monarchy over that incident, however it was made in a tabloid magazine so I don't know how serious it was lol.

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I understand your point, but when I disagree so strongly with someone's policies (Hitler is a prime example) that often overshadows whatever positive characteristics he or she may have had. Just my view.
I think that comes from my general desire to see good characteristics in everyone, now like I said, I totally disagree with his beliefs, and as much as I detest the person, in a political world, he had some very rare gifts.

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I think that comes from my general desire to see good characteristics in everyone...
I must say that I really do admire that. It's something I feel I should do but have a hard time doing in some cases.

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Old 01-30-2005, 01:37 AM
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I must say that I really do admire that. It's something I feel I should do but have a hard time doing in some cases.
Don't feel like that it can often get you in more trouble than not, especially when you start trusting the wrong people hehe.

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Old 01-30-2005, 04:09 AM
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Well, I just named him because he foolishly wore a Nazi uniform to a party.
LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Britain's Prince Charles has ordered his son Harry to visit Auschwitz after he caused outrage around the world by wearing a Nazi uniform to a party, the Sun newspaper reported on Friday.

The paper said heir-to-the-throne Charles was "incandescent with rage" with the 20-year-old grandson of Queen Elizabeth and wants him to make a private trip to the concentration camp to learn more about the Holocaust.

Jewish groups had demanded Harry go to the camp in southwest Poland to make amends for wearing a swastika armband and an army shirt with Nazi regalia at a costume party on Saturday.

The Sun, which broke the Nazi gaffe story on Thursday, quoted an unnamed royal source as saying that Prince Charles also told his older son, William, to travel with Harry to Auschwitz.

"There will be no publicity and they will go with a Jewish charity," the source was quoted as saying in the Sun.

"Their father has visited Auschwitz himself and believes Harry and William would both benefit by grasping a greater understanding of the horrors by actually visiting."

The paper said William, 22, accepted part of the blame because he was present when Harry picked the Nazi costume in a hire shop before the private party in southwest England.

A royal spokesman said he would not comment on any private conversations between Prince Charles and his sons, adding: "We wouldn't rule it out, we wouldn't rule it in."

Harry's behavior drew a storm of protest from around the world, coming two weeks before the Jan. 27 events to commemorate 60 years since the liberation of Auschwitz.

The Nazis murdered six million Jews and millions of others including Poles, homosexuals, Soviet prisoners and Gypsies. Millions more were imprisoned or forced to work as slaves.

Harry, son of the late Princess Diana and third in line to the throne, said he was sorry if he had caused any offence. "It was a poor choice of costume and I apologize," he said.

His apology failed to take the heat out of the row, which led television news bulletins and dominated front pages of British newspapers on Friday.

The mass-market Daily Mail demanded in a huge page one headline "Come out and say sorry properly!," while the downmarket Daily Star branded Harry "The Fool in the Crown."

The voice of the establishment, The Times, dismissed his apology as "feeble" and said he had fallen in with "a dubious group of self-indulgent young men who are apparently content with a life of pointless privilege."

The Guardian noted: "This young man could one day be our king. That is a sobering thought to many, if not yet to Prince Harry himself."

The Mirror was kinder, reminding readers he was young when his mother Diana died in a Paris car crash in 1997 and "deserves a little understanding."
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I realise that but I doubt they'd consider sending a kid as their dignitary. His only roles so far have included visiting hospitals.
Oh, I see what you mean now.

And Pip--thanks for posting that article.
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As some of you may know I am heavily in to politics and have a desire to do it as a career in the future. For this I actually admire Hitler, he is the epitome of qualities a good politician should have, exuding in confidence, a brilliant orator, and the ability to win over an entire population (which really happened, in general the Germans followed what Hitler said), however I rarely state this because it is often misinterpreted as me saying I support Hitler's policies, what Hitler did was wrong but the skills he had in politics should be admired by all in that field.

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I think so as well, intelligence exists in evil people like Hitler - but it is intelligence nonetheless

Also, the Treaty of Versailles, which ended WWI, was so hard on Germany that the German people as a whole were bludgeoned by the economy - they were looking, if you will, for anything and anyone to lead them out of that - Hitler was it and sadly so.
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