Do you think Lindsey...

[Kelly]

Thanks for the link Ali! I have been waiting for someone to say "ah she did not say that, show me the quote" or something all day long. I am glad I had most of the story right. I KNEW she said she watched it all day long waiting for him to take it.
I agree, it is sort of weird for her to give him the album like that knowing he was not happy about her striking out on her own. I do understand her gesture and think she probably still thinks of LB as the bad guy in that scenario but I can understand why he left it there. It was sort of an "in your face" move... even though I do not think that is what Stevie intended it to be. She was hurt he did not take it, he was hurt she even gave it to him...(or made the album without him.) It is not too difficult to see why they had soooo many problems.
I just re-watched the BTM's too. Stevie retells the story on his but does not seem quite as pissed as Rock Family Trees.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

I don't know if listening to Stevie's work means his taste has deteriorated (because you know i'm a fan of her work )....

I tend to think Lindsey's outlook has simply changed, rather than his "tastes have deteriorated." I think he still likes exploring new things, but feels less compelled to do that in a reactionary sort of way. I think he really felt he needed to separate himself from Fleetwood Mac in the '80s and '90s, to show that he was more than just their guitarist or more than just Stevie Nicks' ex-boyfriend. I think he felt he had a lot to prove.

I tend to think he's much more comfortable in his skin these days, and, therefore, far less likely to be uptight about how something might be perceived. He still wants to push envelopes, but seems to not sweat it as much.
Christine and Stevie have always played things safer than Lindsey would like, but I think they're not "playing it safe" so much as they're simply making the type of music THEY would want to listen to themselves. Which, obviously, has not always been exactly the kind of music Lindsey would want to listen to, but there seems to be some aspect of the approach that he's found a respect for.

[David]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I tend to think he's much more comfortable in his skin these days, and, therefore, far less likely to be uptight about how something might be perceived. He still wants to push envelopes, but seems to not sweat it as much.

I agree.

Christine and Stevie have always played things safer than Lindsey would like, but I think they're not "playing it safe" so much as they're simply making the type of music THEY would want to listen to themselves. Which, obviously, has not always been exactly the kind of music Lindsey would want to listen to, but there seems to be some aspect of the approach that he's found a respect for.

I agree with this, too.

But I think he & Stevie, despite the fundamental decency & maturity both have, are vastly different personalities & temperaments, with vastly different predilections & tastes: in music, especially, but also in how they dress, what they eat, how they decorate their homes, their perspectives on the press, how they see their fans, & on & on.

Infusing so much spoiled-romance blather into the question of who listened to who's music clouds the issue, which
seems to me to be the totally different taste in music they have. There isn't anything about "Bwana" or "That's How We Do It in L.A." that Stevie Nicks would or could enjoy; it's just not her kind of thing. Mainstream is what she always strove for. Musically, her albums are total L.A. session musician affairs (no pun intended): Kunkel lays down a standard 4/4, Glaub lobs in the standard bass line, Wachtel & Davy Johnstone add the standard mainstream mix of acoustic & electric guitars, Bittan does his diatonic piano exercises & Iovine's production pulls no punches -- he & Stevie want the live band sound, & that's what they get; just set those mix inputs to a comfortable level. Part of it's the fact that the guys who did her albums didn't have a lot of time to squander with overdubs & reconceptualizing, but the larger part of it is that this is Stevie's taste in pop-rock music. Instrumentally, "Bella Donna" isn't all that different from Jackson Browne's "For Everyman" or the Eagles' "Take It Easy." That's because the same people play on all these projects.

Remember, things like the layering of the track; the use of conventional instruments in unconventional ways; the use of technological devices to emphasize (or sometimes de-emphasize) emotional content; the attempt to avoid the current radio hit mentality (think Quarterflash or Starship) in terms of track makeup, song length & radio-friendly mix -- these have all been super important to Buckingham for decades.

Her albums must strike him as standard-fare mainstream, & his albums must sound like cacophony to her ears. In recent years, with the patching up of their friendship, they're both undoubtedly more inclined to listen to each other's past work in a more "open" way; but they both still have vastly different taste & style. Nothing on "Trouble in Shangri-La" is created like "Red Rover." That will never happen on any solo albums they do in the future.

[David]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Christine and Stevie have always played things safer than Lindsey would like, but I think they're not "playing it safe" so much as they're simply making the type of music THEY would want to listen to themselves.

I think it's especially true in Christine's case. One thing that has become apparent to me over the years is that Chris has a narrowly defined concept of "good" in pop music, which I've had to extrapolate from her numerous comments about other music & musicians. Chris is perfect at what she does, but clearly has no taste for anything outside that sphere. John seems to be much the same way. Virtually any sort of music -- or any approach or style -- that they themselves haven't played (whether it's blues, R&B, pop-rock) doesn't appeal to them at all. Relatively speaking, Mick & Lindsey have the most varied, adventurous taste in others' music.

[ThePenguin]

Originally Posted by David

I think it's especially true in Christine's case. One thing that has become apparent to me over the years is that Chris has a narrowly defined concept of "good" in pop music, which I've had to extrapolate from her numerous comments about other music & musicians. Chris is perfect at what she does, but clearly has no taste for anything outside that sphere. John seems to be much the same way. Virtually any sort of music -- or any approach or style -- that they themselves haven't played (whether it's blues, R&B, pop-rock) doesn't appeal to them at all. Relatively speaking, Mick & Lindsey have the most varied, adventurous taste in others' music.

I would agree w/ all this. Her tastes seem to run very MOR, easy-listening type of stuff...Steely Dan, Sting, Peter Gabriel etc. I would've liked to have seen her face the 1st time she heard Murrow or Come etc. (It probably looked much like mine! ) In that same vein, I can't imagine John ever liking a song like Come if it wasn't done by LB within a Fleetwood Mac format. It would've been 'puke' if anyone else had done it.

-Lis

[Little Nicki]

Originally Posted by dissention

Of course, I'm very smart and very astute.

I...like the word astute. It reminds me...of a jolly fat woman eating cheese and drinking whine in a quaint little cafe!

[Gwillaker]

I seem to recall he wasnt too impressed with some of Stevie's solo work back in the "Go Insane" days...