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He actually had "balls" (imagine a president who is not afraid to stand up for what he believes in) to want to define what exactly marriage was....1man+1woman. Not really to BAN gay marriage, but to define marriage between a man and a woman.
The problem is that you're not realizing that he is using religious beliefs to admend the Constitution. That is unconstitutional.
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He actually had "balls" (imagine a president who is not afraid to stand up for what he believes in) to want to define what exactly marriage was....1man+1woman. Not really to BAN gay marriage, but to define marriage between a man and a woman.
Um - no that's a fluffy way of saying he wants to BAN gay marriage....

Also - great he has beliefs...he doesn't live by them - he's all talk - AND as it's been stated over and over - there is NO PLACE for his religion in law...plain and simple. What are you not understanding about that??
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Again, this is a hateful message with no basis in fact. We are not "crying" because we're whiny but because there was widespread fraud in Ohio and Florida. Democratic precincts did not have enough machines, in some precincts minorites waited over 6 hours to vote. There were no such problems in Republican precincts. There were precincts that had more votes for Bush than registered voters, which is impossible. In all cases of irregularities Bush was favored. Quite a few people reported that their vote for Kerry disappeared on the touch screen after they tried to vote. Etc, etc. The mainstream media won't touch the story for fear of ridicule and not getting their paychecks. The corporations that own them are Bush cronies.
I see that as a bunch of liberal bs...(no offense to you...its not directed at you) but thats all it is...liberal fabrications. and note...most TV stations want touch the story because they know that its just insanity, not because of fear of losing their jobs...that didn't stop Mr. Rather and his staff at C-BS.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:55 PM
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Um - no that's a fluffy way of saying he wants to BAN gay marriage....

Also - great he has beliefs...he doesn't live by them - he's all talk - AND as it's been stated over and over - there is NO PLACE for his religion in law...plain and simple. What are you not understanding about that??
Well, really its not about religon. Its about reaffirming what the majority of Americans view as marriage.
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I see that as a bunch of liberal bs...(no offense to you...its not directed at you) but thats all it is...liberal fabrications. and note...most TV stations want touch the story because they know that its just insanity, not because of fear of losing their jobs...that didn't stop Mr. Rather and his staff at C-BS.
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The problem is that you're not realizing that he is using religious beliefs to admend the Constitution. That is unconstitutional.
No one HAS to mend the constitutioin to affirm what the definition of marriage is.
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Well, really its not about religon. Its about reaffirming what the majority of Americans view as marriage.
And what if the majority are wrong because they are basing their opinion soley on religion?
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No one HAS to mend the constitutioin to affirm what the definition of marriage is.
Then why are they attempting to do just that?
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Well, really its not about religon. Its about reaffirming what the majority of Americans view as marriage.
that's bullsh**t - because it's all based on religion. HE's NOT concerned with what the majority of America thinks - and if you think he is - you're even more delusional than I already think you are

Give me ONE good reason WHY marriage should be limited to 1 man 1 woman - that is NOT based in religion....just one...come on...
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It is true.
and suddenly my eyes are opened and I see the great big light that says...Kerry really won.
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Well, really its not about religon. Its about reaffirming what the majority of Americans view as marriage.
As has been said 100s of times, majority opinion is not always right. (slavery, civil rights, women's rights, Native American policy)
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and suddenly my eyes are opened and I see the great big light that says...Kerry really won.
Mean and uncalled for.

Gee, I can't imagine why people are nasty to you...
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And what if the majority are wrong because they are basing their opinion soley on religion?
You can't say that we are WRONG. Amerian's have beliefs that tie into how they view the country should be ruled.
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You can't say that we are WRONG. Amerian's have beliefs that tie into how they view the country should be ruled.
I most certainly can...this is America and I can say what I please...

So does each religion have the power to legislate if they are the majority?

Should the legislature of Utah be able to legalize poligamy?
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You can't say that we are WRONG. Amerian's have beliefs that tie into how they view the country should be ruled.
I sure as hell can say they're WRONG - because there is an amendment which SEPARATES religion and government..

Seriously dude - take some sort of reading comprehension class - you're not getting it...
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