Earlier or later writings better?

[amber]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Well, maybe I'm just thinking Marissa's all on fire!!!!!!!!!

PREACH IT ON SISTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I second that emotion.

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by Merf

That's why I said they were the best she'd written in a long time. Come on people, they were MUCH better than anything on Street Angel & "Sweet Girl."

I agree. Except maybe in the case of EFO; I just don't think that one represents great songwriting necessarily. I like it, but I tend to think "Blue Denim" has better lyrics. That's very debatable, I know. Well, all of this is. Especially after dissention brought in the unkind language.

Hillary

[DrummerDeanna]

It's ALL debatable - but it'd be a silly debate as this stuff is all relative....someone's favorite Stevie stuff is someone elses worst Stevie stuff etc....

I chose "both equally" because I can find writing from ALL Stevie eras that I love and writing that I dislike...I think she is in a completely different place now than back then - and her writing has changed - some think for the worst...some say for the better...but whatever...I love it all!!!

[skcin]

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

And I thought she wrote "Trouble in Shangri-La" twenty years ago? I thought it was an old demo. Am I wrong? Whatever the case, I agree that if she came out with more songs like that one, it would be beyond awesome. I'll take more of that over "Love Is," "I Miss You," and "Say You Will" any day. (I still don't think "Say You Will" is "junk," as you say, but then I'm not going to agree with a lot of what I see as your over-the-top negative language in that post).

Hillary

Nope, TISL was written around 94 or 95, right after she got off the Klonopin. She's said it was inspired by the OJ trial - having someone "so beloved" do something to screw it up so bad & lose it all.

As far as her writing, I can't honestly say that her current writing is as good as earlier work (say, 75 - 83) but it's definitely up there.

The only era that I think is subpar is from around 87-94. It's not all bad, it's just not as great as pre or post.

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by skcin

Nope, TISL was written around 94 or 95, right after she got off the Klonopin. She's said it was inspired by the OJ trial - having someone "so beloved" do something to screw it up so bad & lose it all.

Oh! For some reason, I was under the impression that TISL was much older. Thanks for the info!

Hillary

[skcin]

Originally Posted by Merf

That's why I said they were the best she'd written in a long time. Come on people, they were MUCH better than anything on Street Angel & "Sweet Girl."

I love Sweet Girl. "...still through the sunlight days I wait, track a ghost through the fog, the sun is burning me, and you come walking out in the wind with me, the ocean is your blanket." I LOVE that line!

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by skcin

I love Sweet Girl. "...still through the sunlight days I wait, track a ghost through the fog, the sun is burning me, and you come walking out in the wind with me, the ocean is your blanket." I LOVE that line!

Yeah, I think that one also has better lyrics than songs on SYW like "Say You Will" and "EFO."

Hillary

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Yeah, I think that one also has better lyrics than songs on SYW like "Say You Will" and "EFO."

Hillary

What's so bad with those two songs? Say You Will's chorus is repeated too much, but the verse lyrics are pretty good. As with EFO, it's perfection, lyric-wise (except for "most of the time").

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

As with EFO, it's perfection, lyric-wise (except for "most of the time").

I've always thought the "most of the time" was a shot at the "other woman." As if to say even when he's not physically with me and is with you? his heart and his mind are with me. Hence, "most of the time."

Love EFO.

[amber]

Originally Posted by skcin

I love Sweet Girl. "...still through the sunlight days I wait, track a ghost through the fog, the sun is burning me, and you come walking out in the wind with me, the ocean is your blanket." I LOVE that line!

oh, she says track a ghost again? Hmmm, I thought it was something else. guess not.
But - I think she says "you come running out in the wind with"
I also love this song. mainly the last verse, but still.

[amber]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

I've always thought the "most of the time" was a shot at the "other woman." As if to say even when he's not physically with me and is with you? his heart and his mind are with me. Hence, "most of the time."

Love EFO.

me, too. I don't think it's a great lyric, though. It clunks a little.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by amber

me, too. I don't think it's a great lyric, though. It clunks a little.

My point, exactly. The "I do have him" is powerful...then "most of the time" is just there.....an after thought that doesn't fit lyrically or with the music.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

My point, exactly. The "I do have him" is powerful...then "most of the time" is just there.....an after thought that doesn't fit lyrically or with the music.

Maybe in her mind the "most of the time" is an after thought? Maybe she thinks she does have him all the time but then realizes that the other woman has this man in a capacity that she does not. Just a thought...

[amber]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

Maybe in her mind the "most of the time" is an after thought? Maybe she thinks she does have him all the time but then realizes that the other woman has this man in a capacity that she does not. Just a thought...

I think you're right. But I don't think we're questioning the intention of the lyric, but the actual words chosen to express it - they do not flow very well. At least, that's what i'm saying. I love EFO, to...

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

Maybe in her mind the "most of the time" is an after thought? Maybe she thinks she does have him all the time but then realizes that the other woman has this man in a capacity that she does not. Just a thought...

Agreed. I'm just ranting over the flow and tone and placement of the line. It just doesn't fit for me.

Originally Posted by amber

I think you're right. But I don't think we're questioning the intention of the lyric, but the actual words chosen to express it - they do not flow very well. At least, that's what i'm saying. I love EFO, to...

What she said.