Does Stevie sing 100% live onstage? - Page 2

Janet · #16 10-26-2004, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

There are only three instances I can think of where FM lip-synched a performance....

1982 UK TV appearance, lip-synching "Oh Diane"

1990 appearance on the Japanese TV show, 'Sound Gig,' lip-synching "Save Me," "Freedom," "In The Back Of My Mind" and "Stand On The Rock"

1998 appearance on the German show, 'Wetten Dass?,' lip-syncing "Silver Springs"

Otherwise, I think it's pretty obvious that they sing live... occasional sour-notes, missed-cues, and all.

You beat me to it!

Even on Solid Gold Stevie sings live and not even Christine did on that one!

strandinthewind · #17 10-26-2004, 05:21 AM

The only other instance I can think of is Stevie during the BD tour video of EO17 overdubs parts of her live vocal with the album cut. I forget which part if it, but it is obvious to me that she does because her lips are not matching the verse and it sounds exactly like the album vocal. But, that was a live performance which was dubbed, so she still sang it

dissention · #18 10-26-2004, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by takenbythesky

At the particular show I saw, Stevie's lovely, understated backing vocals were very real. There might be a little help with the slight "ahhhhhs" in the background, though. I was too caught up in the moment to notice.

"Say Goodbye" is one of my favorites...

Yeah, that's what I meant. The lead vocals are completely Stevie and Lindsey.

Oooh Missionary · #19 10-26-2004, 11:25 AM

I think the most important question to be raised is: WHERE IS THE FILE OF STEVIE & CO. LIPSYNCHING "FREEDOM"?!

princessblair · #20 10-26-2004, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SmthngOfADreamr

Stevie changes/forgets/messes up lyrics way to much to ever be tied to lip syncing. I just don't think it would work for her.

That is so true! Anyway, I had second row seats in Cedar Falls in July and eventually made my way up to the stage, directly infront of Stevie! I could hardly take my eyes off her and thus, I did not detect a moment when it wasn't her singing (live).

blinker12 · #21 10-26-2004, 02:31 PM

And the thing to keep in mind, with a lot of these teeny-bopper stars (e.g. Ashlee Simpson), is that they're prancing/dancing around so much, dodging pyrotechnics displays, etc., that they kinda have to use pre-recorded vocals. Whereas with Stevie and the Mac, the emphasis is on the music -- they mostly just stand at their mics and sing, so there wouldn't be much need for backup tracks.

Mageboy25 · #22 10-27-2004, 05:40 AM

Yes I really do wonder how much Lindsey really plays live these days. I bet anyone a dollar, when he stoops down during GYOW to let the people in front strum along the techs turn his gutiar off. In Nashville I was the only playing his right cords for what all over 30 seconds

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HomerMcvie · #23 10-27-2004, 12:18 PM

When he's banging the neck with both hands on LIB, his sound is really buried in the mix. Why? Because banging the neck with both hands sounds like ****! It's all for show. So yeah, the other guitarists are covering the sound for him.

I wanna know WHO decided that bands could no longer go out as a 4 or 5 piece? That there must be umpteen people in the band.......

Oona · #24 10-27-2004, 02:25 PM

well, unless there is disparity in the audio-video sync, look at the edge of 17 on the live video from BD (HBO thingie). Look closely at "he was no more than a baby then" it seems a bit "off" sync. could be a technical issue, could be a little lip-sync.....hard to know fur shur.

Johnny Stew · #25 10-27-2004, 04:44 PM

I just want to quickly point out that there's a difference between lip-synching (mouthing the words at the time of the filming), and post-production audio-sweetening and/or overdubbing.

The act of overdubbing the vocals on a line or two (or on entire songs) before the release of a concert video is pretty common. It's done to fix everything from a botched line, to a sour note, to a bit of feedback.

Concert videos are often regarded in much the same way as a film, where editing, overdubbing, etc., is used to make it the best possible product it can be.
Very few are ever completely "worts and all."

The other thing to keep in mind is that, generally more than one night of the show is filmed. Both Stevie & Fleetwood Mac's 'In Concert' videos from the early '80s were filmed over the course of two nights. As were the 'Tango' and 'Live In Boston' videos.
'The Dance' was filmed over the course of three nights... a dress rehearsal and two audience-attended concerts.

So audio from one night and video from another are often intermingled throughout the released product... which sometimes causes a discrepancy between what you see being sung or played on stage and what you hear on the soundtrack.

It's not a case of lip-synching on stage, but rather post-production overdubbing.

estranged4life · #26 10-27-2004, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

So audio from one night and video from another are often intermingled throughout the released product... which sometimes causes a discrepancy between what you see being sung or played on stage and what you hear on the soundtrack.

It's not a case of lip-synching on stage, but rather post-production overdubbing.

most recorded concerts are shot over a few days at the same venue to be able to edit out any mistakes and to have extra footage to fill in the blanks/edits...

I have 3 officially released DVD's in which the concerts were filmed on mulitple dates at the same venue, And ya can tell on each where post-production was done.

Brian j.

Alexbt · #27 10-27-2004, 07:01 PM

Well, what's amusing is, on the Tango DVD, during Everywhere (I think), you can see John just playing normally, but in some shots of him, he's smoking a cigarette, and then they'll show him not.

dissention · #28 10-28-2004, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Very few are ever completely "worts and all."

The only ones I've seen that weren't fixed up were the Live By Request DVDs and the Blondie Live DVD. I actually prefer the unedited ones because they give more depth to the performance, they seem more human.

HomerMcvie · #29 10-28-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention

The only ones I've seen that weren't fixed up were the Live By Request DVDs and the Blondie Live DVD. I actually prefer the unedited ones because they give more depth to the performance, they seem more human.

And that's what I don't like about LIB.
Should've been : FM: Live Video in Boston-Most Audio overdubbed.
I agree 100%. The warts give it depth and reality.

dissention · #30 10-28-2004, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

And that's what I don't like about LIB.
Should've been : FM: Live Video in Boston-Most Audio overdubbed.
I agree 100%. The warts give it depth and reality.

I don't think they did much overdubbing, to be honest. I think that, especially for FM, LIB is incredibly raw. If they were going to do a lot of overdubbing, surely they would have gotten rid of her Silver Springs vocals and a lot of Lindsey's screeching. But they didn't and that's why I like it so much.

I'd like to see them do Live By Request, honestly.