Gay Ledgies of the World Unite!

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Originally Posted by dissention

I must be a slut because virginity was a thing of the past when I was 15.

I think you're what the boys call "lucky"

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Holy crap!! 15?

I used to have the wait til marraige thing...however I did bend - I decided that I would wait until I really felt and loved someone...I don't jump into bed within the first couple of weeks of a relationship...it was months before my last bf and I made that step...

And unfortunately women I've dated have heard my views and usually don't stick around too long lol...many heartbreaks...not many people are willing to wait these days it seems...

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Now - Trackaghost - yeah - I'm not a fan of sly mean women - this chick I had to deal with -she has been annoying the crap outta me since the moment I laid eyes on her (she hangs out in the same group I do) and well last week she really pissed me off....

I was sort of seeing this guy - he was calling my everyday all that -well we went out on Thursday and that chick was there - getting drunk and annoying and hitting on the bar tender - when he gave her no attention she turned her sights on the guy I was with...and well...I just stepped back to see what would happen ( I figured it'd be a good time to observe what kind of character this guy has - he lost the test) haha...after laughing uproariously at every little thing he did - and whoring herself about at him...he chose her - this all happened right in front of me (THAT's what pisses me off -notlosing the guy) I just though that was completely mean and disrespectful and blah...evil slutty girls...at least she could have had the decency to wait til I wasn't around lol....

uh...anyway...

Bum out! But did she know you liked him? cause if she didn't, that's not really that bad...
Amber

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by Lux

But what's the reasoning? I don't know much about Christianity (obviously didn't pay much attention at my Christian highschool........) and am still curious as to why one would want to wait? I'm not mocking, I really want to know. Is the hymen some kind of worshipped tissue? It shan't go down for just anyone/thing.

Ok that might have been insulting, I can see that.

I guess it's a way of telling the person "you are the most important person in my life and no one else has ever been this important and no one else will ever be this important." But perhaps this just puts too much emphasis on sex. That's something to consider.

But I don't think hymens are worshipped tissues.

And I'm no expert on Christianity, trust me. Someone else will have to explain why the Bible stresses that so much. (Doesn't it? I mean, I don't even remember reading anything that touched on that.)

And I'm not insulted. I know y'all are just playing. I'm also not all that uptight about sexual issues.

Hillary

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Well, isn't sex thought of as the Original Sin or something like that?
I was brought up Catholic, we feel guilty about everything I tell ya, even the most mundane things.

lol more in common hahah...I always joke about Catholic guilt - ya think jews got guilt...man try on some Catholic guilt...jeebus...

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by amber

Bum out! But did she know you liked him? cause if she didn't, that's not really that bad...
Amber

Yeah - we showed up together and had been at a previous event together - she totally knew we were...now I don't mean to demonize her and her alone - the guy is a total dick in this situation as well....again - I don't care about being rejected - just about the disrespect of the whole situation...

Also - I'm not all laughy at guys all bubbly like and I don't constantly stroke egos etc...I'm just me...he apparently needed a girl who was a slut and would totally stroke his fragile ego A LOT!

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

lol more in common hahah...I always joke about Catholic guilt - ya think jews got guilt...man try on some Catholic guilt...jeebus...

I feel sorry for you guys - I was baptized Catholic, but what that meant is that I went to church once a year (maybe) and it was midnight mass and i got to sing Xmas songs.... Yep, i think of myself as the "new" traditional catholic. If i was raised with any religion it was native american. my parents didn't get married until i was 15! By the way, i have a friend who will burst into song all the time. She has a good voice, but she sings all R&B style. It annoys the crap outta me, because then, instead of us SHARING a conversation about things we can both talk about, I have now become her audience I mean, it's ok sometimes (and i love when she bursts into dance) but normally....no. Coincidentally for this thread, she is the girl i slept with (damn scorpios!)
Amber

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by Lux

Ok, but why would you hold out and commit to that without really knowing why you're doing that? Without knowing why it's sacred? Am I prying? Oh well you brought it up......

Well, I don't know precisely why it's so sacred for Christians, but what I've said before is why it's so sacred to me. (It's in the first part of post #101). I'm never asked that question and I guess that's why it's hard for me to really explain my feelings.

Hillary

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Lux

So to have sex before 15 is slutty? I can call myself a whore, infact I let many call me that, but it's different coming from you.

People can have sex whenever they choose to, I pass no judgements.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Lux

Ok, but why would you hold out and commit to that without really knowing why you're doing that? Without knowing why it's sacred? Am I prying? Oh well you brought it up......

Maybe she has a different sense of self-respect than you or I do. Maybe she just doesn't want to drop trou for the first Tom, Dick, or Harry that passes by and wants to wait and do it when she finds the right person.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by Lux

Are eating and breathing the unoriginal sins?

I really don't understand what the big deal is with sex. In out and then carry on. What's all this sinning business? It's just natural. And why couldn't they just admit that the Messiah's parents had to have had sex? What's so wrong with that? Of course they're probably just covering for the fact that he raped her, but I digress.


Ok, but why would you hold out and commit to that without really knowing why you're doing that? Without knowing why it's sacred? Am I prying? Oh well you brought it up......

Umm...actually the religious story goes that there was no sex - it's called immaculate conception....Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus - so that the Catholic take on it....please don't **** on that view too much - it's part of my belief structure and I'd appreciate it if you could respect that a little bit.

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My views on sex are not religious - they're about the way I feel about my body and mind...I respect my self and my body and don't want to just throw it around to be used by others - sex for me is about sharing one of the most intimate parts of myself - and like Hillary said it's saying that someone is that important to you or whatever...

It's obviously not your view...but believe it or not some do view sex differently than others

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by dissention

Maybe she has a different sense of self-respect than you or I do. Maybe she just doesn't want to drop trou for the first Tom, Dick, or Harry that passes by and wants to wait and do it when she finds the right person.

So teasingly unkind to someone else but so sweet to me. Yet, I feel left out, since you never say unkind things to me, dissention. What's wrong with me?

Hillary

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Yep, me too I've seen this sort of thing loads of times sadly. They deserve each other Deanna.

Yep - they do...

This is something I've grown accustomed to...I'm not all girly girl and I'm smart and super independent...I don't do things that aren't in my character to attract men or women....that's hard for some people to deal with...and I'm often the loser in situations pitting me against other women lol...

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Originally Posted by Lux

Are eating and breathing the unoriginal sins? ......

You are so funny right now...

Originally Posted by Lux

I really don't understand what the big deal is with sex. In out and then carry on. What's all this sinning business? It's just natural. And why couldn't they just admit that the Messiah's parents had to have had sex? What's so wrong with that? Of course they're probably just covering for the fact that he raped her, but I digress.


Ok, but why would you hold out and commit to that without really knowing why you're doing that? Without knowing why it's sacred? Am I prying? Oh well you brought it up......

Things aren't as natural to religious people. Just because every life form that exists does it, they still think humans need special rules and stuff. Ziff we weren't just big ol animals...

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

You scarlet woman you lol!
I went to a Catholic school and everything! When you're raised that way, even if you lose your faith or stray from the church, the Catholic guilt stays!
Still I haven't let it get in my way too much...

ain't it the truth...ain't it the truth...

I can't tell you how many Sunday mornings I get a pang of total guilt because I'm sitting on my ass eating cereal and not at church....

[dissention]

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

So teasingly unkind to someone else but so sweet to me. Yet, I feel left out, since you never say unkind things to me, dissention. What's wrong with me?

Hillary

Nothing. But there must be something wrong with me if I haven't lashed my wicked tongue in your general direction yet.