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Old 09-28-2004, 10:39 AM
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He actually was a decent legislator at one time.
Was being the key word, of course.
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Old 09-29-2004, 01:59 PM
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I feel like this whole country is a mess.

I totally support the gay community. 100%. They should be allowed the same rights 100% THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT. but
I totally believe in GOD as well.

I totally am terrified a new man in office will leave us vunerable for attack

I am totally terrified to keep the same man because look at the state of the country.

God help me. I don't know what to do.
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Old 09-29-2004, 03:43 PM
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I feel like this whole country is a mess.

I totally support the gay community. 100%. They should be allowed the same rights 100% THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT. but
I totally believe in GOD as well.

I totally am terrified a new man in office will leave us vunerable for attack

I am totally terrified to keep the same man because look at the state of the country.

God help me. I don't know what to do.
My friend - alot alot alot of people feel the same way. AND - having it shoved down our throates 24/7 on the news channels does nothing but heighten the fear. In the end, I am voting for Kerry because if I had an employee who made the mistakes W did, I would fire them without hesitation. But, Kerry is no bed of roses - so "faith is a hard thing to hold onto . . ."
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Old 09-29-2004, 04:10 PM
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I feel like this whole country is a mess.

I totally support the gay community. 100%. They should be allowed the same rights 100% THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT. but
I totally believe in GOD as well.
See, Janet, the trouble is that extreme-conservatives and extreme-Christians have made this out to be a Gays vs. God thing.
It's not that. At all. And it never has been.

No one is looking to go against the bible. No one is looking to go against God.
We're just looking for the same rights as everyone else. Mind you, we're not looking for more rights than others, and we're not looking for special rights. Just equal rights.

God created us ALL in His likeness... He didn't just create the people who don't make us feel uncomfortable.

Two men or two women marrying will do no more to damage the "sanctity of marriage" than the millions of heterosexuals who get married and divorced over and over again. I realize you understand that, but, unfortunately, the extremists either don't see that or don't want to admit it.


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I totally am terrified a new man in office will leave us vunerable for attack

I am totally terrified to keep the same man because look at the state of the country.
I'm not at all worried about a new president in office increasing the chance for more acts of terrorism on American soil, because I firmly believe that ANY man (or woman!) elected president in these times, will have no choice but to be strong on the issue of terrorism.
I really don't think we're ever going to go back to the times when we arrogantly believed that things like that could never happen here.

I'm far more concerned about Bush having another four years to further erode our economy, our civil rights, and our relationships with other countries.
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Old 09-29-2004, 04:18 PM
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See, Janet, the trouble is that extreme-conservatives and extreme-Christians have made this out to be a Gays vs. God thing.
It's not that. At all. And it never has been.

No one is looking to go against the bible. No one is looking to go against God.

We're just looking for the same rights as everyone else. Mind you, we're not looking for more rights than others, and we're not looking for special rights. Just equal rights.

God created us ALL in His likeness... He didn't just create the people who don't make us feel uncomfortable.

Two men or two women marrying will do no more to damage the "sanctity of marriage" than the millions of heterosexuals who get married and divorced over and over again. I realize you understand that, but, unfortunately, the extremists either don't see that or don't want to admit it.
with ya Super-Librarian guy...A 100% agreement!


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Luckily in GA the lotto money does go to education, although only higher education. The HOPE Scholarship of GA (inacted by former Gov. Zell Miller--one of the few things that makes me like him, most things make me hate him) is fully funded by the GA Lotto, and provides ALL GA students who have a B Average through high school, fully funded in state college tuition plus money for books, as long as they keep the B Average in college---i receive the scholarship..and thank God for it..I wish all states would do this

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oh, my god, something like this here would've changed my life... I'm glad you're getting it.
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Old 09-29-2004, 04:46 PM
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Teachers,police officers, firefighters, all deserve much better pay. The only problem is, if you pay them a whole lot of money, will you get people in there who just want to do it for the money, and will that create a whole lot of great and dedicated teachers? I dunno it's a good question to ponder

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But in a way, I think also some people who would be good and dedicated DON'T teach because it's not enough money...As far as police officers go - I think that's where most of the danger would lay (lie?). I already think that most people who become cops have some weird complexes (most) and if you added more money to that - Bleah! My friend teaches ESL kinder/first, and she just got her masters which, I think, brought her up to 60k from 55k? around there. But most teachers don't make that much, even. I think that should be about right for STARTING teachers, non biligual...
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:01 PM
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I feel like this whole country is a mess.

I totally support the gay community. 100%. They should be allowed the same rights 100% THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT. but
I totally believe in GOD as well.

I totally am terrified a new man in office will leave us vunerable for attack

I am totally terrified to keep the same man because look at the state of the country.

God help me. I don't know what to do.

I feel more vulnerable to another terrorist attack with GWB in office, than I would with Kerry. GWB has wrecked our allies in the world..God help us if we do NEED help under Bush's watch, no-one would help us...The world is NOT safer since this war has gone on, it gets less and less safe every hour...
John Kerry, like someone said, will be strong on terrorism--any President will...But this war in Iraq is costing way to much to be producing no results, and to not be making the world any safer

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