Howard Stern mentions F-Mac

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I kind of agree with this. Stevie even in interviews doesn't have that vibrant approach. I remember the Jim Ladd interviews way back and she used to have this great humor. Now it's all PC crap. Stevie and LB seem older to me than even Christine. Maybe because CM called it quits, she got her energy back. But her latest interviews make her sound like she's 40.

I think in all fairness SN and LB are fricken tired and crabby. I can understand why.

I'm at risk of starting an all-out war with this comment... but Stevie said in some interview (I wish I remembered) that 9/11 aged her about ten years.

Not to sound goofy, but I do wonder if the experience of being in New York on that day (albeit, in the relative safety of a luxury hotel room) still weighs on her.
She certainly seemed far more subdued and somber in the various 'SYW' interviews than she had in the 'TISL' interviews.

Or maybe the poor woman is simply tired.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dissention

Oh, puhleeze.

Look at the photos out there of Stevie without pancake make-up and then compare them to when she's wearing it. Heck, just watch LIB, she's wearing so much that she looks like she had her make-up done at Uncle Larry's Funeral Parlor and Mortuary.

I'm not arguing that her makeup on 'Live In Boston' isn't thick, simply that it's stage makeup, and stage makeup IS thick by design. It's meant to compensate for things such as pale complexions and harsh lighting (and people sitting a few hundred feet from the stage).

As far as post-production touch-ups enhancing her appearance... well, I don't doubt that either. But I also don't think it's as extensive as people make it out to be. More than likely done to even skin-tones, etc.

Anyone who wants to see what the level of re-touches being implied here REALLY looks like, should check out that Michael Jackson tribute concert from a year or two back.
Whitney Houston was re-touched to hide her "skin and bones" appearance, and it SHOWS. Especially around her collar-bone. Even in close-ups, the footage looks smudged.

Obviously they used a less-expensive approach.
The technique of high-quality digital re-touching is ultra-expensive... which is why film studios, etc., avoid it at all costs.

Stevie may be vain like the rest of us, but I just can't imagine her pushing for millions of dollars worth of re-touches... which is what it would cost to extensively re-touch a feature length concert like 'The Dance' or a feature-length documentary like 'Destiny Rules.'

I'm not saying that I don't think some scenes here and there aren't re-touched (I mean, it IS obvious, for Pete's sake)... just that I certainly don't feel it was done to the extent that is sometimes claimed.

And, I don't care what anyone says... here's an un-retouched candid photo where she's wearing low-key makeup, and this is a beautiful woman....

http://www.buckinghamnicks.net/sn/im...AHIAfter02.jpg

[sarahw]

great example Johnny Stew...

I think she looks great on LIB, and in most of the candid shots people have posted from the shows....for someone who is 56 she looks amazing....as far as the weight goes, the camera adds like what...10 pounds? I don't think she is more than 135 pounds, I think her clothes add the appearance of weight. We all add weight as we age, so why should she be different? Do all of you look perfect? Doubt it.

On someone's recent candid shots there was a spare tire visable on Lindsey....we're talking love handles. Yet no one comments. Why? Not a fair double standard, but highly pervasive in the thought processes of today's society.

I enjoy Howard Stern, but take what he says with a grain of salt. AND, he is butt ugly.

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by sarahw

great example Johnny Stew...

I think she looks great on LIB, and in most of the candid shots people have posted from the shows....for someone who is 56 she looks amazing....as far as the weight goes, the camera adds like what...10 pounds? I don't think she is more than 135 pounds, I think her clothes add the appearance of weight. We all add weight as we age, so why should she be different? Do all of you look perfect? Doubt it.

On someone's recent candid shots there was a spare tire visable on Lindsey....we're talking love handles. Yet no one comments. Why? Not a fair double standard, but highly pervasive in the thought processes of today's society.

I enjoy Howard Stern, but take what he says with a grain of salt. AND, he is butt ugly.

You are right- I don't think she needs to lose 30 pounds! Take a look at this pic from this tour- she is thin, she just doesn't dress thin. Get rid of the layers and who knows what she would look like!

http://buckinghamnicks.net/sn/images/SNicksDC01.jpg

[diamondsnake]

And as far as her general appearance goes some candid pictures are terrible like this one (her worst picture from the SYW tour in my opinion):

http://buckinghamnicks.net/sn/images...mpaignAH01.jpg

And then my favorite SYW tour picture was taken just a few nights latter! So obviously, just like everyone else she takes great pictures and bad pictures:

http://buckinghamnicks.net/sn/images...eRaleigh03.jpg

PS: This picture I just think is really cool. She does not look like an earth mother she looks really hot:

http://buckinghamnicks.net/sn/images/SNicksDR05.JPG

In conclusion, Stevie is hot and Howard Stern can ride off in to the sunset with Britney Spears or whoever else he deems "hot". He isn't fit to shine Stevie's reeboks.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I disagree - I thought her make up in The Dance was superb. I also think the lighting was INCREDIBLE. I also think they shot her through a special lens - perhaps oil immersed or gauzed if they still use those concepts I also think there may have been some post production work done to enhance that

Agreed. I like the make up for The Dance but filters were clearly used. And why not?

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

And, I don't care what anyone says... here's an un-retouched candid photo where she's wearing low-key makeup, and this is a beautiful woman....

http://www.buckinghamnicks.net/sn/im...AHIAfter02.jpg

Compare that to the Silent Night rehearsal photo. And the one where she's holding up that ridiculous t-shirt.

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by dissention

Compare that to the Silent Night rehearsal photo. And the one where she's holding up that ridiculous t-shirt.

Well that's the way the ball bounces. I just developed some pictures today and one of the pictures of me I look like amazing (not to brag!) and in another picture I look like something the cat threw up. I guess that is just life. So obviously this rule applies to Stevie too!

[heyjupiter678]

Originally Posted by dissention

Compare that to the Silent Night rehearsal photo. And the one where she's holding up that ridiculous t-shirt.

I think she looks beautiful in the picture with the t-shirt, and much younger than her age.

http://buckinghamnicks.net/sn/images/SNicksBobFunny.jpg

[strandinthewind]

I do too - IMP she looks no where near her age in that t-shirt pic. AND - it is candid and her skin looks okay, just older.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by heyjupiter678

I think she looks beautiful in the picture with the t-shirt, and much younger than her age.

Seriously. If that's an example of Stevie looking "bad," then the woman has no worries.

I mean, we're talking about a 56-year old woman wearing very little makeup (with, seemingly, no major plastic surgery)... how is she supposed to look? Like a fresh-scrubbed 18 year old? Talk about unrealistic expectations!

When she's not wearing makeup (such as those "Silent Night" pics), her eyes are very small and her face has little color. Wow... big surprise there!
But we act as if Stevie suddenly becomes Medusa when she's not wearing makeup, and as if it's somehow proof that she no longer looks good when she does.

Isn't the whole point of wearing makeup, to enhance one's beauty and divert attention from one's flaws?
And, when on stage, to combat the harshness of the stage lights, as well as the other factors I've already cited.

I think one can still be a beautiful woman, while also not looking "perfect"... but maybe that's just me.

[diamondsnake]

I think she looks about fourty in that picture. Not mid fifties. And Johnny is right- we can not expect this woman to look like an olsen twin! And even if Dissention doesn't think so I think she is hot. Especially in this picture which I can not get enough of:

http://buckinghamnicks.net/sn/images/SNicksDR05.JPG

[jbrownsjr]

Christine is the only one that has sort of dropped weight. She looked kind of swollen in the Mirage and "Christine McVie" solo) days. While Stevie was very thin in those days. When I saw Christine during the Dance, I couldn't believe how good she looked.

Of course Stevie was gaining in the late 80's. Then shedding in the 90's.

[David]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm at risk of starting an all-out war with this comment... but Stevie said in some interview (I wish I remembered) that 9/11 aged her about ten years.

Maybe it did. I really loved how youthful & funky she was during the press for "Street Angel." She did a series of interviews on radio (Jim Ladd, WNEW, Museum of TV & Radio, Mark & Brian, etc.) & she was a real pistol. She had it all back for that short time. I guess, as we've learned in retrospect, she wasn't all that pleased with her then-recently finished album, but she was dying to get on the road & was quite the dickens, playing her keyboard & singing along on all these radio shows, joshing around with callers & DJs, etc. I hadn't heard her be quite so fun since 1986.

That was a personality high point for Stevie. Otherwise, she's been fairly morose.

[David]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Of course Stevie was gaining in the late 80's.

Stevie's weight gain was really weird & abrupt. It happened in 1985. She played the club date with Les Dudek in April or May 1985, & based on the photos looked just great (much like her Wild Heart Tour self), but by the time she played Tom Petty's show in Tempe in July & the benefits in September, she was markedly overweight. The lady next to me at the Los Angeles benefit even said (into my recording equipment): "Didn't she put a little weight on?"

From that point on, she never looked like the girl on the cover of "Bella Donna" again. Although there's another anomaly: the early part of the tour in 1990. How did Stevie look like an aerobics instructor again from the waist down (even if it only lasted for a few months)?