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[amber]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

I agree with most of what you said except the calling out the fast food companies - I just don't think it's all their fault...it's the parents fault....the fast food companies are just doing business...trying to make money - it sucks the way they go about it perhaps - but when it comes down to it - it's the poor judgement of the individual that's to blame....

Your thred brought up some great points - the video games/tv...I was in the same boat as you....I remember once I went with my grandpa to get gas in his truck - we were across the street from McDonalds...sooo...I started in wiht th e..."gosh I'm soo hungry grandpa - I need to eat..." and he just kept saying, "your grandma will fix you a sandwich or something when we get home..." to which I replied, "you don't know anything about kids, grandpa." haha...I also always got the response of "have some water or milk." when I complained of being thirsty...

I'm fully aware that some people are beginning not to care - it infuriates me seeing babies with bottles - filled with soda or Kool-aid - what the hell are these parents thinking?? BUT - it's not the fault of Coke or Kool-aid...it's the fault of the parent....

As for the tv and video games...it's a sad sign of our times...but there are still kids in this world who are not obese - who don't watch tv and don't play video games...my nephew and many of his friends are among them..

Yeah, it's not so much the fault of the companies, but if you think about it, if drug companies were selling us a drug that was bad for us, we'd be up in arms...it's kinda the same thing...companies don't have to sell such crappy poison food - but i meant calling them out as in, pointing out the flaws to make everyone aware - If companies are going to sell something, they shouldn't be afraid for people to call what they're selling, a spade, so to speak. I mean, it's not the companies' fault people buy stuff, but i think there is nothing wrong in pointing out what, exactly, these companies are selling...I mean, is pointing out the truth blaming them? maybe, maybe not...
Haha at your childhood, like mine - We were really poor, too. I must have eaten a million apples and carrots in my childhood
AMber

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by amber

Yeah, it's not so much the fault of the companies, but if you think about it, if drug companies were selling us a drug that was bad for us, we'd be up in arms...



Haha at your childhood, like mine - We were really poor, too. I must have eaten a million apples and carrots in my childhood
AMber

Never looked at it that way - interesting point indeed...

and yeah as a result of that upbringing I have an un-ending love of oranges lol...but hey - it gave me a great foundation for who I am today - though we didn't have a lot of money there is nothing I felt I never had (the lack of video games and crap was hard at the time - now I'm grateful we couldn't afford those things).

[amber]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Never looked at it that way - interesting point indeed...

and yeah as a result of that upbringing I have an un-ending love of oranges lol...but hey - it gave me a great foundation for who I am today - though we didn't have a lot of money there is nothing I felt I never had (the lack of video games and crap was hard at the time - now I'm grateful we couldn't afford those things).

Me, too, it's the thing my mom did right I mostly missed TV shows, and candy. But, actually, since I had to go get our groceries every day, and we lived up a huge hill, etc. 3 miles in the snow blah, there was a thrifty's on the way, and i stole a candy bar every single day on the way to the store. Bad? Yes. Grounded for the entire month of may when my mom found out? Yes. (I was 8) Stopped me? No. Slowed me down? Yes.
Strangely, the kid I played with down the hill, lived IN A TRAILOR (2 kids, mom and dad) but had an Atari! It reminds me of the kids I see all over Oakland, - TV's and Video games in their rooms, nice clothes, fat, but with bad grades, and their parents not caring how they act, or that they're getting one of the worst educations in the country either...and munching on huge bags of chips as they walk down the street, eating fast food all the time....*sigh*...their parents have nice cars, too.... *sigh*, again....oh, well...
AMber

[dissention]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

I agree with most of what you said except the calling out the fast food companies - I just don't think it's all their fault...it's the parents fault....the fast food companies are just doing business...trying to make money - it sucks the way they go about it perhaps - but when it comes down to it - it's the poor judgement of the individual that's to blame....

Yes, but what about the types of fats and chemicals found in their products that they've only recently begun to disclose on nutritional brochures? For years, they never told us how much trans fat is in their food. They're only now beginning to do so and trans fat is the worst one for ya. Same with Nabisco and they're Oreo cookies.

Again, I don't understand why you can't see that it's more than just bad judgement. There are many sociological factors that feed into the fast food cravings that I couldn't even begin to list them. Read "Fast Food Nation," I'm tellin' ya!

[melly]

I will go see them both this week I think

Amber.. you reminded me of my childhood. My parents were both at university almost until I was school age so we had no money. In NZ kids take lunch to school, not buying it or geting a cooked lunch. My mum used to make me sandwiches.. brown bread. Her favourite filling was: carrot (grated) and sultana (raisin). I'm not kidding. Sometimes cheese and jam. Plus, sometimes a stick of celery. We never had soft drink or anything like that, incl chips, etc. I went McDonalds after nagging for years at age 8 or so and apparently hated it. I too was a kid told to have an apple and a glass of water when I said I wanted a snack.

[amber]

Originally Posted by melly

I will go see them both this week I think

Amber.. you reminded me of my childhood. My parents were both at university almost until I was school age so we had no money. In NZ kids take lunch to school, not buying it or geting a cooked lunch. My mum used to make me sandwiches.. brown bread. Her favourite filling was: carrot (grated) and sultana (raisin). I'm not kidding. Sometimes cheese and jam. Plus, sometimes a stick of celery. We never had soft drink or anything like that, incl chips, etc. I went McDonalds after nagging for years at age 8 or so and apparently hated it. I too was a kid told to have an apple and a glass of water when I said I wanted a snack.

My mom used to make grated carrot and raisin salad...Yeah, my mom was going to college, too...we had stew a lot, in the winter...and lentils, lentils, lentils...ad nauseum. Glad i wasn't the only one But wait, chees and jam? hmmmm....why not peanut butter and jam?
AMber