stevie's politics?

[no_spoken_word]

Originally Posted by dissention

She was also on Access Hollywood last year and was questioned about the Dixie Chicks controversy. She made a rather absurd comment about people not speaking out against the war.

I remember that, and I remember being a little dissappointed by Stevie. It made me wonder what Stevie thought of her friend Sheryl Crow when she wore her "I DON'T BELIVE IN YOUR WAR MR BUSH" t-shirt to an award show earlier that year.

[heyjupiter678]

Originally Posted by dissention

As for the other quote you posted, if it is indeed about poltical issues (and no one is saying it can't be about perosnal relationships, too), it wouldn't surprise me that Lindsey said it wasn't. Can we say Dixie Chicks?

I really don't think you can compare the two. The Dixie Chicks are a country group that called Bush out directly -- sacrilege in that industry. Peacekeeper's lyrics are vague at best and admitting that it's a political song wouldn't garner the kind of attention the DC got, IMO. But who really knows?

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by dissention

Browne attended a Diablo Canyon nuclear protest in the 80s and upon hearing this, Stevie said:

"But they could have broken your fingers-your beautiful fingers that write all those beautiful songs. Are you crazy? We need you to write songs. We don't need you to be in jail."

It's a rather childish and naive statment, IMO.

She was also on Access Hollywood last year and was questioned about the Dixie Chicks controversy. She made a rather absurd comment about people not speaking out against the war.

I agree that that is childish. If it were me, that would be something I wouldn't share with the public. I'm also disappointed about the comment about the Dixie Chicks.

And thanks for posting those quotes, Mikki. And I agree that it can't be compared to the Dixie Chicks, as Lindsey is much more subtle.

Hillary

[melly]

I just did a search and found this.. which made me laugh.

"Clinton’s speech was flanked by performances by Shelby Lynne and Stevie Nicks. Nicks’ appearance sparked a memorable moment: When R&R Publisher/CEO Erica Farber led a Q&A with Clinton, she noted that Clinton was a big Fleetwood Mac fan and asked, “When were you first exposed to Stevie Nicks?” The audience responded to the double entendre with a rumble of laughs. Clinton protested, “I’ve never been exposed to Stevie Nicks!” The comment was received with wild applause."

It's from some convention in '01.

I know Stevie seems to feel a lot of compassion for soldiers (Desert Angel, letters to Stars & Stripes), but I never really got a feeling for whether she felt the war in Iraq is wrong or simply that she wants to protect people who are in pain/ involved in conflict. Do you think Desert Angel is anti-war or more of a protective thing, that she feels for people in trouble? I remember that pic of her with the US flag behind and she's praying, or seems to be, and it kind of confuses me. I feel like Stevie would be anti war in principle. What do you guys think?

[teedee]

Originally Posted by dissention

Browne attended a Diablo Canyon nuclear protest in the 80s and upon hearing this, Stevie said:

"But they could have broken your fingers-your beautiful fingers that write all those beautiful songs. Are you crazy? We need you to write songs. We don't need you to be in jail."

It's a rather childish and naive statment, IMO.

She was also on Access Hollywood last year and was questioned about the Dixie Chicks controversy. She made a rather absurd comment about people not speaking out against the war.

What Stevie said in regards to what happened to the Dixie chicks is ," I've been in the business for a long time, I love my career to much, to make such a political statement as the Dixie chicks". She is not a political activist, she is an entertainer and she knows this. She is also aware of the backlash you can get from your public, with such a negative statement, as the dixie chicks are now learning about. If the chicks were so firm on believing in their statement why did they then take back what they said? To me that is absurd, not what Stevie said. I commend Stevie for keeping low key about her political views. As for what you stated she said about JAckson, that sounds like it was more out of fear for him because when you are a public figure and you put yourself in that kind of situation it can be harmful to you, riots and so on. I dont believe tho for one minute that she doesnt think you shouldnt stand up for things you believe you just have to be extra careful with what you say and how you do it. Cause either way the public is going to beat you down for it.

[Sugar]

Originally Posted by teedee

What Stevie said in regards to what happened to the Dixie chicks is ," I've been in the business for a long time, I love my career to much, to make such a political statement as the Dixie chicks". She is not a political activist, she is an entertainer and she knows this. She is also aware of the backlash you can get from your public, with such a negative statement, as the dixie chicks are now learning about. If the chicks were so firm on believing in their statement why did they then take back what they said? To me that is absurd, not what Stevie said. I commend Stevie for keeping low key about her political views. As for what you stated she said about JAckson, that sounds like it was more out of fear for him because when you are a public figure and you put yourself in that kind of situation it can be harmful to you, riots and so on. I dont believe tho for one minute that she doesnt think you shouldnt stand up for things you believe you just have to be extra careful with what you say and how you do it. Cause either way the public is going to beat you down for it.

I wish Stevie would be willing to stand up for what she believes in. There is nothing wrong with being an artist having political beliefs, and nothing wrong with them voicing them. Rock and roll is no stranger to activism, although it seems to be lately. I suspect Stevie could weather whatever negativity might come her way.

Yes, it is unfortunate the Dixie Chicks felt they had to take back their statements, but when strangers are threatening your home and your children I can't say I would have done differently in their shoes. Not absurd at all.

Perhaps that's Stevie's issue. Not so much her career, but her personal safety. It would break my heart if I thought Stevie was too married to her rock n' roll lifestyle that she wouldn't dare threaten it with something as small potatoes as her personal beliefs.

Then again maybe Stevie does take the ostrich approach to politics. Perhaps all those donations are made because friends ask her to -- who knows? Perhaps she is just a bit out of touch...

That is a real twit-sounding thing Stevie said to Jackson Browne, though. Perhaps it was sort of light-hearted, kind of to lighten the mood or something. Hopefully it wasn't said in earnest.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by teedee

What Stevie said in regards to what happened to the Dixie chicks is ," I've been in the business for a long time, I love my career to much, to make such a political statement as the Dixie chicks". She is not a political activist, she is an entertainer and she knows this. She is also aware of the backlash you can get from your public, with such a negative statement, as the dixie chicks are now learning about. If the chicks were so firm on believing in their statement why did they then take back what they said? To me that is absurd, not what Stevie said. I commend Stevie for keeping low key about her political views. As for what you stated she said about JAckson, that sounds like it was more out of fear for him because when you are a public figure and you put yourself in that kind of situation it can be harmful to you, riots and so on. I dont believe tho for one minute that she doesnt think you shouldnt stand up for things you believe you just have to be extra careful with what you say and how you do it. Cause either way the public is going to beat you down for it.

You seem to have carefully left out the part where she said people shouldn't speak out during wartime.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by heyjupiter678

I really don't think you can compare the two. The Dixie Chicks are a country group that called Bush out directly -- sacrilege in that industry. Peacekeeper's lyrics are vague at best and admitting that it's a political song wouldn't garner the kind of attention the DC got, IMO. But who really knows?

Not really. I think that after seeing such outrage directed towards the Chicks, Lindsey wouldn't want any of it reflected on the band. I think that if the song was about war and politics, he definitely would be fearful. It was just the Chicks, it was Pearl Jam and many other bands, too.

[saradorna]

Originally Posted by dissention

Browne attended a Diablo Canyon nuclear protest in the 80s and upon hearing this, Stevie said:

"But they could have broken your fingers-your beautiful fingers that write all those beautiful songs. Are you crazy? We need you to write songs. We don't need you to be in jail."

It's a rather childish and naive statment, IMO.

She was also on Access Hollywood last year and was questioned about the Dixie Chicks controversy. She made a rather absurd comment about people not speaking out against the war.

Thank you, dissention for the info. Yes that statement is silly but that was the 80's and she was using drugs at that time so may have been xtra naive and xtra childish than she usually is. lol

Part of the appeal of Stevie is that her persona is a bit childlike and naive(with fairy, witches and so on). Some people like that, some people don't. I don't always like what she says to the point that makes me cringe but I forgive her because I love her music. Btw, her music (sometimes) is a bit childlike and naive.

About her comment on the Dixie Chicks controversy, I thought she handle it well. She did not say people shouldn't speak out, she said that SHE would never speak out in the manner that DC did. And even though I don't agree with her it is her opinion and her decision not to speak about politics. I'm sure she has a political opinions and she probably makes comments around her friends and that's it.

I like to point out something positive about Stevie, when it comes to this political or any kind of questions for that matter, she always has an answer for everything, even if they're cringe worthy to some people. lol!

Isabel

[saradorna]

Originally Posted by dissention

You seem to have carefully left out the part where she said people shouldn't speak out during wartime.

Maybe I saw a different interview but she never said that in the CNN interview where she was with John. I have that videotape and she never said that people shouldn't speak out during wartime. She did say that SHE would not.

Isabel

[saradorna]

I think this song is not about politics but about relantionships. I think the reason that it was the first single is because of the tittle and what was happening at the time. I think the decision of which single to put first and send to radio is done by the record company. I maybe wrong but I thought that's how is done.

Isabel

[teedee]

Originally Posted by Sugar

I wish Stevie would be willing to stand up for what she believes in. There is nothing wrong with being an artist having political beliefs, and nothing wrong with them voicing them. Rock and roll is no stranger to activism, although it seems to be lately. I suspect Stevie could weather whatever negativity might come her way.

Yes, it is unfortunate the Dixie Chicks felt they had to take back their statements, but when strangers are threatening your home and your children I can't say I would have done differently in their shoes. Not absurd at all.

Perhaps that's Stevie's issue. Not so much her career, but her personal safety. It would break my heart if I thought Stevie was too married to her rock n' roll lifestyle that she wouldn't dare threaten it with something as small potatoes as her personal beliefs.

Then again maybe Stevie does take the ostrich approach to politics. Perhaps all those donations are made because friends ask her to -- who knows? Perhaps she is just a bit out of touch...

That is a real twit-sounding thing Stevie said to Jackson Browne, though. Perhaps it was sort of light-hearted, kind of to lighten the mood or something. Hopefully it wasn't said in earnest.

What kind of reaction did the dixie chicks expect, im sure they got threats of all kinds. what i am saying is why didnt they think about what they were saying before they said it . they said it cause they believed what they said, now to take it back, makes them look like idiots. Sure people are they caused their own riot with the people, being booed everywhere from everyone.if you stand for something , stand behind what you say. You stated stevie could handle any negativity,sure she could, but as she stated she has been in this business for a long time and why invite that kind of negativity she is not a political person, she is an entertainer. You are always going to have controversy when it comes to politics, and she chooses not to make that her platform. when she made that remark about the dixie chicks, it was because she knew what the outcome would be for that kind statement. as for her not standing up for her personal beliefs, I think she does, she just doesnt do it in a public grand way. She is a public figure and she chooses to do it quietly. If she chooses not to discuss politics , thats her wish. if someone asks for her comment on the DC or someone else, thats her opinion and that what SHE Believes. So i think you have to respect her views of what she thinks is appropriate. People like the DC should learn from someone like stevie. i dont mean in all aspects of life, but for someone who has survived in the biz for so long. do you mean to tell me that the DC dont regret what they said. they sure do or they wouldnt have apologized for it. Sure the threats had something to do with it, but like i said earlier, did they not think that people would not threaten them with such a statement?

[teedee]

Originally Posted by dissention

You seem to have carefully left out the part where she said people shouldn't speak out during wartime.

I didnt mean to leave any part out, in fact i will elaborate on that comment. If stevie is being interviewed and being asked to comment on the DC or whatever , I think its her right to the opinion that she feels people shouldnt speak out at war time in the terms of , The DC spoke out about the President, in a negative way, and pretty straight forward. you hear people all the time say i support the troops but not the war,etc...Stevie being a public figure , i think refers to well if you are going to say something like that, be ready for the back lash, and thats exactly what happened. its not like the DC are standing behind what they said, they apologized. why cause of threats, because of the bashing they were recieving, what the heck did they expect. well if you believe in anything , say what you mean and mean what you say. Stevie strongly feels that its best for her not to take that public view on politics . I think stevies was like, if you do it prepare yourself for your own personal war with the people you are about to offend.
Public displays of politics is not stevies goal in life . does that make her bad< NO. If the DC apologized cause of threats , as the above poster stated, then why would you knock stevie, for not wanting to get personally involved , with a subject that could cause her a negative backlash or personal safety. I respect her for choosing to keep politics out of her public career.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by saradorna

Maybe I saw a different interview but she never said that in the CNN interview where she was with John. I have that videotape and she never said that people shouldn't speak out during wartime. She did say that SHE would not.

Isabel

No, I'm talking about her appearance on Access Hollywood. It was our first public glimpse at the parted-in-the-middle hairdo.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by teedee

What kind of reaction did the dixie chicks expect, im sure they got threats of all kinds. what i am saying is why didnt they think about what they were saying before they said it . they said it cause they believed what they said, now to take it back, makes them look like idiots. Sure people are they caused their own riot with the people, being booed everywhere from everyone.if you stand for something , stand behind what you say. You stated stevie could handle any negativity,sure she could, but as she stated she has been in this business for a long time and why invite that kind of negativity she is not a political person, she is an entertainer. You are always going to have controversy when it comes to politics, and she chooses not to make that her platform. when she made that remark about the dixie chicks, it was because she knew what the outcome would be for that kind statement. as for her not standing up for her personal beliefs, I think she does, she just doesnt do it in a public grand way. She is a public figure and she chooses to do it quietly. If she chooses not to discuss politics , thats her wish. if someone asks for her comment on the DC or someone else, thats her opinion and that what SHE Believes. So i think you have to respect her views of what she thinks is appropriate. People like the DC should learn from someone like stevie. i dont mean in all aspects of life, but for someone who has survived in the biz for so long. do you mean to tell me that the DC dont regret what they said. they sure do or they wouldnt have apologized for it. Sure the threats had something to do with it, but like i said earlier, did they not think that people would not threaten them with such a statement?

They didn't take back what they said. They said that maybe they said it too crudely and not with enough finesse. They were on Primetime right after the controversy started and when asked what they would say to Bush if he was watching right now, they told Diane Sawyer that the censors would go nuts and that there wasn't enough airtime available.

As far as what Stevie said about not speaking out against a war, I disagree and find that notion to be anti-American. Sorry, but this country was founded on dissent and it is your duty as an American to dissent when you don't like what actions are being taken in your name. I could care less if it was Stevie or Joe Schmoe that said it, it's an absurd line of thinking.