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dissention · #16 07-30-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

According to Tucker Carlson (you can judge reliability), the Dems did not want him to speak at all, but he said that he was either going to speak on the floor or speak outside chained to the door of the convention.

Tucker Carlson is a turd. Period.

CarneVaca · #17 07-30-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

screw al shorpton....let the people do what they want with their vote. it's not up to him. the demcrats absolutely take advantage of the african american vote. they take it for granted.

What's your complaint exactly? It's a party convention. The idea is to get people to vote for the party.

Or do you just think the black guy shouldn't have been allowed to speak?

dissention · #18 07-30-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

screw al shorpton....let the people do what they want with their vote. it's not up to him. the demcrats absolutely take advantage of the african american vote. they take it for granted.

Bull****.

Tell me what the Republicans did for blacks. Nothing. Sharpton was amazing and he was dead-on. I see you are not refuting anything he said with facts. If you want to talk about votes being taken for granted, let's talk about how the Rpeublicans take the southern vote for granted.

Virginia and the Carolinas are already in the bag, don't you worry.

CarneVaca · #19 07-30-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I personally think the Democratic party stands out because they don't take African-Americans for granted.
They recognize them as a very important community, and they embrace them.

You're right, Johnny. They just take the liberals for granted. They think that because they aren't quite as bad as the Repugnants, that we should vote for them. To them, I eloquently extend my middle finger.

CarneVaca · #20 07-30-2004, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

As opposed to Katherine Harris and the Republican party who purged them from the voter rolls in 2000?
What's your party doing for them MikeVielhaber? Name one thing your party has EVER done for African Americans. I'm waiting.

Lincoln was a Republican.

More Republicans in Congress voted for the Civil Rights Act in the 60s than Democrats, proportionally.

MikeVielhaber · #21 07-30-2004, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca

What's your complaint exactly? It's a party convention. The idea is to get people to vote for the party.

Or do you just think the black guy shouldn't have been allowed to speak?

its the fact that he was infuriated that bush had the audacity to campaign to african americans *gasp* the horror!.....i mean this dude was yelling....he was obviously pissed off about it. al sharpton can't control peoples minds...let them think for themself. its like if kerry came to campaign here in texas and they yelled at him for doing that....i would get pissed off if someone did that being from texas. but i wouldnt get mad at kerry for doing it...he's just trying to get votes where he normally doesnt do well. good for him. as much as i think he's a douche.

jwd · #22 07-30-2004, 09:56 PM

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dissention:

Virginia and the Carolinas are already in the bag, don't you worry.

You're spewing again. Prove it.

jwd · #23 07-30-2004, 09:58 PM

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CarneVaca:

Lincoln was a Republican.

More Republicans in Congress voted for the Civil Rights Act in the 60s than Democrats, proportionally.

I hear ya!

MikeVielhaber · #24 07-30-2004, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Bull****.

Tell me what the Republicans did for blacks. Nothing. Sharpton was amazing and he was dead-on. I see you are not refuting anything he said with facts. If you want to talk about votes being taken for granted, let's talk about how the Rpeublicans take the southern vote for granted.

Virginia and the Carolinas are already in the bag, don't you worry.

what did the dems do for blacks? (i'm not trying to start anything but maybe you know something i dont which is entirely possible)

CarneVaca · #25 07-30-2004, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

its the fact that he was infuriated that bush had the audacity to campaign to african americans *gasp* the horror!.....i mean this dude was yelling....he was obviously pissed off about it. al sharpton can't control peoples minds...let them think for themself. its like if kerry came to campaign here in texas and they yelled at him for doing that....i would get pissed off if someone did that being from texas. but i wouldnt get mad at kerry for doing it...he's just trying to get votes where he normally doesnt do well. good for him. as much as i think he's a douche.

I think you're still missing the point of what convention speeches are about. Every single person who got on that podium, save for perhaps Ron Reagan, made a pitch to vote for Kerry, so in a way, they were telling people how to think. I find it curious that you only seem to object to the flamboyant black guy doing it. Is it because he was just so damned effective? Did he strike some kind of nerve?

CarneVaca · #26 07-30-2004, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd

I hear ya!

I may be a pest, but I am fair. I don't let blind partisanship cloud my judgment or sense of fairness.

Johnny Stew · #27 07-30-2004, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca

More Republicans in Congress voted for the Civil Rights Act in the 60s than Democrats, proportionally.

Which was a very good thing, definitely... but tell me, what has the Republican party done for African Americans in the forty years since?

Johnny Stew · #28 07-30-2004, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

as much as i think he's a douche.

Well, in so much as a douche is used to cleanse certain orifices from odor-causing bacteria, and many of us are hoping that John Kerry will cleanse the White House of the odor-causing bacteria its currently infested with... I guess it's reasonable to think of Kerry as a "douche."

MikeVielhaber · #29 07-30-2004, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca

I think you're still missing the point of what convention speeches are about. Every single person who got on that podium, save for perhaps Ron Reagan, made a pitch to vote for Kerry, so in a way, they were telling people how to think. I find it curious that you only seem to object to the flamboyant black guy doing it. Is it because he was just so damned effective? Did he strike some kind of nerve?

dude i didnt watch the convention.....i saw him on cnn.....i object to some of the things i read the edwards had to say but i didnt read or see much of anything else. i'm FAR from racist.

and i couldve gone up there and yelled at the height of my voice VOTE JOHN KERRY and been just as effective. you just have to put energy into what you say and you'll get a rise out of people.

and also this is my first election i'm old enough to vote in so its really the first one i have a big interest in. so excuse my naivity of the conventions i've never paid attention to them before.

gldstwmn · #30 07-31-2004, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca

Lincoln was a Republican.

More Republicans in Congress voted for the Civil Rights Act in the 60s than Democrats, proportionally.

Who signed the bill into law? Introduced it? Sponsored it? Who created HUD? Welfare? Affirmative Action? Who sponsored and signed the Voting Rights Act of 1965? Who was the first party to allow a black man to speak at their convention? What party had the first black man to run for president? What party has the most African American members of the House Of Representatives? Congress? Mayors? Governors?

Sure Lincoln was a Republican. What are the similaritites between the Republican party of 1865 and today? Were they against abortion and was their playbook the Book Of Revleations? Did they favor taxation of only the poor and the middle class?
Don't be coming at me with this weak ****.