Should "I'm So Afraid" be Kerry's campaign song?

[gldstwmn]

Silencio? We've done it again, d.

[gldstwmn]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - Details in a 1963 accident report say that Laura Bush, then 17, ran a stop sign in the Texas crash that killed a friend in another car. The report, adding information to previous reports of the crash, was released to The Associated Press on Wednesday.

Mrs. Bush now is the wife of Republican presidential nominee-to-be George W. Bush, the Texas governor.

''It was a very tragic accident that deeply affected the families and was very painful for all involved, including the community at large,'' said Mrs. Bush's spokesman, Andrew Malcolm. ''To this day, Mrs. Bush remains unable to talk about it.''

She did say in March, when asked at a campaign stop about the crash, ''I know this as an adult, and even more as a parent, it was crushing ... for the family involved and for me as well.''

There had been published accounts of the accident, but city officials had declined to release the records because those involved were under 18. The police report was released Wednesday in response to an open-records request that was submitted to Midland officials in March.

According to the two-page accident report, Laura Welch was driving her Chevrolet sedan on a clear night shortly after 8 p.m. on Nov. 6, 1963, when she drove into an intersection and struck a Corvair sedan driven by 17-year-old Michael Douglas.

Although previous news accounts have reported Douglas was thrown from the car and broke his neck, those details were not in the report.

The speed of Laura Bush's car was illegible on the report. The speed limit for the road was 55.

Laura Bush and her passenger, Judy Dykes, also 17, were taken to a hospital and treated for minor injuries, according to an accident account printed at the time in the Midland Reporter-Telegram.

The police report indicates no charges were filed. That section of the report was left blank.

''As far as we know, no charges were filed,'' said Midland city attorney Keith Stretcher. ''I don't think it's unusual that charges weren't filed.''


Isn't it funny how records concerning the Bush family are always "illegible", blank, lost or destroyed?

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Silencio? We've done it again, d.

I'm telling you, people:

If you are not well-versed on politics and the issues, don't chime into the discussion. It's a waste of our time and waste of your time that you could be using to research these things.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm

Isn't it funny how records concerning the Bush family are always "illegible", blank, lost or destroyed?

It's hysterical.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

FYI, NewsMax is linked to white supremacy groups.

They were also linked to a group that tried to bomb an abortion clinic.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by dissention

I'm telling you, people:

If you are not well-versed on politics and the issues, don't chime into the discussion. It's a waste of our time and waste of your time that you could be using to research these things.

guess I'm ****outtaluck

[dissention]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

guess I'm ****outtaluck

No, you know your ****. Much moreso than the people who come in here singing Bush praises but knowing nothing about his administration.

[estranged4life]

Bush's compassion for his fellow American makes me feel like and then because that is the funniest crap I have ever heard.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

Bush's compassion for his fellow American makes me feel like and then because that is the funniest crap I have ever heard.

Voters For Bush.

Roaches For Raid.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

I believe, by faith, and he probably does too...that marriage is sacred....and marriage is the eternal bond between a man and a woman...no different...and shoukd not be corrupted. the bible teaches that homosexuality is wrong. whether his proposed amendment is constitutional or not his stance was definitely faith-driven

Let me just say this... I may be homosexual, but I've never done cocaine (or ANY other illegal drug), I've never abused alcohol (I have an alcoholic beverage on about three or four occasions, per year), I do not engage in casual sex, and I've never forced anyone to have an abortion.

Oh, and I also believe in God, and I follow the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.

So don't tell me that anyone is "better" than me, simply because they're heterosexual, and don't tell me that if I want to commit to someone I love who happens to be of the same gender, that it's somehow going to ruin the "sanctity" of marriage. Most especially when heterosexuals are divorcing and remarrying on a daily basis. And that includes folks who claim to be religious and follow Christ's teachings.
If religious folks are afraid that marriage is being corrupted, then they need look no further than the fickle heterosexual couples who are causing that corruption.

Also, as has been said many, many times... one can always find some passage in the bible to support their stance against something. It's easy to twist vague wordings to suit your needs.

And if one chooses to be nit-picky, then even those church-going, God-fearing, bible-quoting people are going against something in the bible (check out Leviticus sometime, and let me know if you follow everything there to the letter).

In MY bible, God tells us to love each other, as we love Him... He doesn't tell us to do everything in our power to discriminate against others or to denigrate them for not living their lives in the same manner that we do.

So, no one... not George W. Bush, not Pat Robertson, not Jerry Falwell, and certainly not Fred Phelps... has any business telling me what's "moral," and how I should be living my life.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Let me just say this... I may be homosexual, but I've never done cocaine (or ANY other illegal drug), I've never abused alcohol (I have an alcoholic beverage on about three or four occasions, per year), I do not engage in casual sex, and I've never forced anyone to have an abortion.

Oh, and I also believe in God, and I follow the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.

So don't tell me that anyone is "better" than me, simply because they're heterosexual, and don't tell me that if I want to commit to someone I love who happens to be of the same gender, that it's somehow going to ruin the "sanctity" of marriage. Most especially when heterosexuals are divorcing and remarrying on a daily basis. And that includes folks who claim to be religious and follow Christ's teachings.
If religious folks are afraid that marriage is being corrupted, then they need look no further than the fickle heterosexual couples who are causing that corruption.

Also, as has been said many, many times... one can always find some passage in the bible to support their stance against something. It's easy to twist vague wordings to suit your needs.

And if one chooses to be nit-picky, then even those church-going, God-fearing, bible-quoting people are going against something in the bible (check out Leviticus sometime, and let me know if you follow everything there to the letter).

In MY bible, God tells us to love each other, as we love Him... He doesn't tell us to do everything in our power to discriminate against others or to denigrate them for not living their lives in the same manner that we do.

So, no one... not George W. Bush, not Pat Robertson, not Jerry Falwell, and certainly not Fred Phelps... has any business telling me what's "moral," and how I should be living my life.

whatever you do and the way you choose to live is not my business sir. do what you gotta do.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

whatever you do and the way you choose to live is not my business sir. do what you gotta do.

Way ahead of you on that.

But hey, if I get to the Pearly Gates and St. Peter pulls the lever and sends me down to hell just for being gay, then I owe ya one.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

How about stem cell research?

the current "South Park" episode, I will NEVER look at stem cell research again...

[BrokenWing]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Let me just say this... I may be homosexual, but I've never done cocaine (or ANY other illegal drug), I've never abused alcohol (I have an alcoholic beverage on about three or four occasions, per year), I do not engage in casual sex, and I've never forced anyone to have an abortion.

Oh, and I also believe in God, and I follow the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.

So don't tell me that anyone is "better" than me, simply because they're heterosexual, and don't tell me that if I want to commit to someone I love who happens to be of the same gender, that it's somehow going to ruin the "sanctity" of marriage. Most especially when heterosexuals are divorcing and remarrying on a daily basis. And that includes folks who claim to be religious and follow Christ's teachings.
If religious folks are afraid that marriage is being corrupted, then they need look no further than the fickle heterosexual couples who are causing that corruption.

Also, as has been said many, many times... one can always find some passage in the bible to support their stance against something. It's easy to twist vague wordings to suit your needs.

And if one chooses to be nit-picky, then even those church-going, God-fearing, bible-quoting people are going against something in the bible (check out Leviticus sometime, and let me know if you follow everything there to the letter).

In MY bible, God tells us to love each other, as we love Him... He doesn't tell us to do everything in our power to discriminate against others or to denigrate them for not living their lives in the same manner that we do.

So, no one... not George W. Bush, not Pat Robertson, not Jerry Falwell, and certainly not Fred Phelps... has any business telling me what's "moral," and how I should be living my life.

Johnny, I just wanted to say thank you for saying so eloquently what I have trouble saying without resorting to shouting and name-calling and smoke pouring out my ears.

I too have never done drugs, don't engage in casual sex and would do everything in my power to ensure that no pregnant woman who wants her baby feels compelled to have an abortion. I do drink socially, but I don't get behind the wheel of a car or otherwise put myself and others in danger when I'm drinking. I've been in a monogamous relationship for three and a half years, and I've been completely faithful to my partner--which is more than can be said for many married hetero couples. And that despite it being a long-distance relationship in which we often go a month or more without seeing each other. One day in the not-too-distant future, we will probably be living together and depending on each other financially, especially since in the present economy, neither of us is making enough money to survive for long on our own. But her health is not the best, and I'm terrified that something might happen to her that would leave me stranded, with no access to the benefits she has paid into Social Security just the same as any heterosexual spouse has, not even the right to make her funeral arrangements, and possibly not even the right to say goodbye to her in the hospital.

Is that what Christian values stand for? Treating a person who has lost or is about to lose his or her partner as if their relationship somehow doesn't count or isn't real because they happen to have the wrong combination of genitalia? Somehow, I think Jesus would be very displeased.

Eileen

[blinker12]

Let me just say this... I may be homosexual, but I've never done cocaine (or ANY other illegal drug), I've never abused alcohol (I have an alcoholic beverage on about three or four occasions, per year), I do not engage in casual sex, and I've never forced anyone to have an abortion.

Johnny, we don't have to apologize or for being gay. Being gay is not a moral weakness that needs to "compensated for" through other virtues!