liberals....

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Originally Posted by Bella Figura

sorry your Ann Coulter comment threw me off

Which comment was that? I'm usually never linked to Coultergeist, explain.

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Originally Posted by Bella Figura

you just need to read her post several times to understand where she is coming from and then accept her position, her intellect and not judge it as ignorance which needs to be corrected, that's all

I never said it was ignorance that needed to be corrected, don't put words in my mouth. I asked her to expound on her thoughts, she wouldn't, end of story.

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thanks for the convo everyone!!!! gotta a bus to catch!!! Feel free to flame!! Nite

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

But there in is my point - the far right thinks Hannity is a Patriot because he uses similar tools to convey his message

Similar tools? He's a f*cking liar.

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

None of these three addresses my points which were:

Tell that to Clark - he let them go. He most have known something, esp. since they were diplomats and/or VIP's The govt. probably had a file on them already. And - to my knowledge none of them subsequently have had any connections to the events of 9/11 other than an estranged family member, in a family of many 100's, organized it.

MM showed no people proud of the way their sons died and believe in this cause.

I don't put Clarke up on a pedestal. I believe him about Iraq because it's been coroborrated by other sources. And I could care less what files they ahd on those Saudi's, do your job and interrogate them. None of them have connections because they were never investigated.

And just because Michael Moore showed no proud families, it doesn't mean that he's saying there are none. Learn to differentiate.

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

so what if the Saudis got put on a plane and taken out of the US. MM IMO is trying to use that to link the govt.'s actions with supporting OBL on the day we got attacked. Those people had nothing to do with OBL and his attack :

Prove it.

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Originally Posted by Bella Figura

thanks for the convo everyone!!!! gotta a bus to catch!!! Feel free to flame!! Nite

Hit and run, eh?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Similar tools? He's a f*cking liar.

FOR THE 10,000th TIME - I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE LYING - SHEEBUS

I agree hannity lies - big woooo - they all do in carying shades and spin.

I am talking about the method. They all do it. I hate it, but recognize they have to if they want to sell their stuff.

What's the line from "Gypsy" - Ya Gotta have a gimmick if you wanna get ahead

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Prove it.

He can't because they weren't investigated.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Also, how many parents who are proud that their children served and died in Iraq did MM show. Certainly they exist.

Mrs. Lipscomb. Certainly, you didn't miss Mrs. Lipscomb?

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

What's the line from "Gypsy" - Ya Gotta have a gimmick if you wanna get ahead

Yet you fault Moore for his gimmick.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by CarneVaca

This has been widely reported. From about Sept. 12, when Osama's name became a household word, it was reported again and again that he was the black sheep of the bin Ladin family.

Thing is, he's not the black sheep of the family. That's spin. Where do people think he's getting his money from?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

I don't put Clarke up on a pedestal. I believe him about Iraq because it's been coroborrated by other sources. And I could care less what files they ahd on those Saudi's, do your job and interrogate them. None of them have connections because they were never investigated

My point was and is we know who was on those planes and no subsequent investigation reveals anything. Don't you think MM would have shown that if he could have Certainly he checked.

Originally Posted by dissention

And just because Michael Moore showed no proud families, it doesn't mean that he's saying there are none. Learn to differentiate.

I know that and said it before. Again, stop the spin My point, which you have not addresse, is MM shows only one side. MM does not differentiate. I think he knows people (certainly in his target demographic) will look at that and think they all died in vain and this woman's testimony supports that. The fairer method IMO would have been to show a proud parent and let the audience make up its own mind. But, he knows he cannot do that for a variety of reasons. So, he does not.

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Prove it.

Please see the last two pages

Again, no one can prove they did. Certainly MM would if he could, but he could not.

Interestingly, should we have investigated all Saudi nationals that left soon after 9/11.

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Mrs. Lipscomb. Certainly, you didn't miss Mrs. Lipscomb?

Explain what you mean?