Producer for a new album

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

No, we'll eat dinner with you, but only after you admit Street Angel is a masterpiece and Docklands is your favourite song EVER!

Better yet, we'll invite Stevie and have her serve the courses in a black chiffon apron all the while singing nothing but SA songs punctuated with Ghosts and Ooh My Love Can't you see it, the kitchen door swings open and in walks a turkey platter carrying frau Nicks belting "THE FORGOTTEN CHIMPANZEEEE!!!!!!"

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I am, however, glad she hopefully will never work with Rupert Hine or the SA producer again.

Glynn Johns or Thom Panunzio?

I've always thought Thom might have done a great job on 'Street Angel,' if he hadn't been stuck with trying to save it from what Glynn did to it.

And no, I wouldn't be at all disappointed if Stevie never worked with Rupert Hine again. I think his production lacked warmth overall.

[Johnny Stew]

"Dreams," even these days, isn't a ballad. Not by a long-shot.

It is, and always has been, a mid-tempo track.

[snwriter]

I think "Jane" is a beautifully written song, too, when taking it into context that it was written about Jane Goodall. Besides for the chimpanzee line irking people, I think the end (at least to me) is very melodramatic and could/would have been reworked by another producer.

I gotta laugh, though, dissension, because as much as I like "Sable" and "OTR," I think lyrically they are pretty weak Stevie songs, especially when considering other Stevie songs from that period. Granted, not as lacking as "RTTG," but certainly weaker than "Destiny Rules" and "Bombay Sapphires," two "recent" songs.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by snwriter

I gotta laugh, though, dissension, because as much as I like "Sable" and "OTR," I think lyrically they are pretty weak Stevie songs, especially when considering other Stevie songs from that period. Granted, not as lacking as "RTTG," but certainly weaker than "Destiny Rules" and "Bombay Sapphires," two "recent" songs.

Oh, lord no.

Sable On Blonde and Outside the Rain are among her best, IMO. The lyrics to those songs amaze me every time I hear her sing them. One of my favorite lyrics ever (well, it might actually be my favorite) is "Love is a word and some entertain it, if you find it...you have won the game..." To put those two up against Destiny Rules and Bombay Sapphires is just foul.

I love those two, but some of the lyrics to BS are dreadful:

"It is green
It is aqua marine
It is colors I have never seen
I can see past you- to the white sand
It is blue
Ooh, it is not about you
It is all true"

Blech.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

"Dreams," even these days, isn't a ballad. Not by a long-shot.

Then tell her to stop singing it as one.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dissention

I love those two, but some of the lyrics to BS are dreadful:

"I can see past you- to the white sand"

Blech.

NO WAY.
That is one of the most eloquent lines Stevie has ever written.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

NO WAY.
That is one of the most eloquent lines Stevie has ever written.

Yeah, that one isn't bad, I was just posting what I thought to be a very lackluster verse. I think it would be better anywhere else but in that particular verse. Great song, except for that verse, IMO.

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by dissention

And I'm the asshole cousin that nobody wants to eat dinner with on Thanksgiving.

I thought you were the mutt we keep throwing scraps to under the table.

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I stand by my opinion that "Jane" is a beautifful written beautiful song. I love it. Although, I like the demo/live sounding one better.

I agree. The main difference to me is the piano on the demo vs. the keyboards on the album. But I like the ending better on the album version.

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

See I think he might be secretly excited by that thought.
Admit it Dissention! You know the chimpanze line gives you a thrill

I picture her serenading Dissention with a chimpanzee puppet, singing "Wassamaddababay..."

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by dissention

I love those two, but some of the lyrics to BS are dreadful:

"It is green
It is aqua marine
It is colors I have never seen
I can see past you- to the white sand
It is blue
Ooh, it is not about you
It is all true"

Blech.

I like these lyrics, especially with the rhythm.

- Jake

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

I'll never deny Stevie has recorded some stinkers. There are some good things about Street Angel but Docklands ain't one of them. Plus her voice sounds so lifeless.

Until you hear the Docklands demo. She sounds like a zombie there.

- Jake

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by face of glass

But then again, I guess some would prefer a Buckingham Nicks album with only Stevie's songs.

That sounds like a dream come true!

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by dissention

Stevie hasn't rocked in years (probably since SA). Old age is settling in and she sings more ballads than anything these days. That's not to say she isn't still fantastic, she just chooses to sing the slower songs.

Well what is your definition of "rocking"? If Stand Back or Rhiannon on Live in Boston is not considered "rocking" I don't know what is. Just because she isn't flying off stages or smashing guitars doesn't mean she hasn't rocked in years. And the reason she sings more balads these days is because that is what makes up most of her FM catalog. There are only a few rockers (Angel, Sister of the Moon, Rhiannon, RTTG, EBFO I think that's it) from her FM records but tons from her solo records. I think Stevie will suprise you when she comes out with her next solo record and tour.

As far as Stevie's records go, she totally is rocking in her fifties! TISL, RTTG, EBFO, POTU (extended version), FFG, Smile at You, etc. These can't be classified as anything but rock songs. RTTG in my opinion is her best rocker of all time. It is so passionate and raspy. Her vocals are great!

And as far as Stevie's early 90's stuff- dissention give her a break! She was dealing with some major health issues at the time. We are lucky she survived and was able to come back and rock once more. She has reclaimed her title as the queen of rock and roll if you ask me!!! She rocks these days- God I love Stevie Nicks!