On 9/11, a Telling Seven-Minute Silence - Page 4

dissention · #46 06-21-2004, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

and then there is the Putin statment that Sh wanted to attack the U.S. mainland and/or U.S. facilities elsewhere. If that is credible, which remains to be seen, it is hard not to agree that he had to be removed

Where's the credibility? Not here, because there is none. It hasn't been verified and it never will, because it's not true. That's just common sense.

strandinthewind · #47 06-21-2004, 02:21 PM

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Tell that to the dozen other police states on this globe.

I think we should, starting with Isreal. But, certainly you are not arguing we should

And - these people have not directly threatened us or our allies and they were or are not under UN scrutiny, etc. Plus, historically, we have done just that.

strandinthewind · #48 06-21-2004, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Where's the credibility? Not here, because there is none. It hasn't been verified and it never will, because it's not true. That's just common sense.

Well, not really. I mean for Putin to make that statement and know it is untrue is strange and likely not to have happened. Why should Putin risk his credibility to help W when W is despised in his country and all over the world. The whole thing is just strange. I think more will come to light soon. If it proved to be true, W will walk on water.

dissention · #49 06-21-2004, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

And - these people have not directly threatened us or our allies and they were or are not under UN scrutiny, etc. Plus, historically, we have done just that.

Saddam didn't threaten us. Saddam was under intense scrutiny (even though you'll NEVER admit that).

Unless a country commits and act of war against us, we have no right to invade it and take over. Sorry, you're not selling that **** to me.

dissention · #50 06-21-2004, 02:27 PM

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Well, not really. I mean for Putin to make that statement and know it is untrue is strange and likely not to have happened. Why should Putin risk his credibility to help W when W is despised in his country and all over the world. The whole thing is just strange. I think more will come to light soon. If it proved to be true, W will walk on water.

Again, common sense.

Putin made that claim, but ponder it for a moment and you'll see how absurd it truly is. Do you think Saddam would attack us, then expect us not retaliate? We'd be dispatched to war with Iraq immediately and Iraq would have no WMDs to fight us with.

strandinthewind · #51 06-21-2004, 02:28 PM

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Saddam didn't threaten us. Saddam was under intense scrutiny (even though you'll NEVER admit that).

Unless a country commits and act of war against us, we have no right to invade it and take over. Sorry, you're not selling that **** to me.

Hello - I just did

I have always said SH was under a huge amount of scrutiny, with the possible exception of when he thre the UN inspectors out. BTW - please show me how we have taken over Iraq with no intent of giving it back to the Iraqi people. I think we are doing that right now

Interestingly, the end of the first Gulf War was predicated on SH complying with the terms of the peace agreement. The UN said time and time again that SH did not comply with those terms. So, the situation with Iraq is different from that vantage point.

strandinthewind · #52 06-21-2004, 02:31 PM

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Again, common sense.

Putin made that claim, but ponder it for a moment and you'll see how absurd it truly is. Do you think Saddam would attack us, then expect us not retaliate? We'd be dispatched to war with Iraq immediately and Iraq would have no WMDs to fight us with.

I agree, if we knew it was SH doing the attacking. SH may have figured the attack would be credited to Al-Q.

Also, why would Putin make the statement. Surely, its veracity can be checked out. Surely Putin has political rivals that could use it against him. Again, we need more on this strange statement.

dissention · #53 06-21-2004, 02:39 PM

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SH may have figured the attack would be credited to Al-Q.

C'mon, that's just stupid, Jason.

dissention · #54 06-21-2004, 02:42 PM

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BTW - please show me how we have taken over Iraq with no intent of giving it back to the Iraqi people. I think we are doing that right now

I know you subscribe to the belief that we're giving the country back on July 1st, but a lot of us don't.

It's all a joke and it will all be run by the US. We handpicked all leaders. For cripes sake, the new "President" of Iraq has the shelf life of a June bug.

gldstwmn · #55 06-21-2004, 04:36 PM

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This is a good time for me to interject with my benevolent dictator proposal. There is no real democracy in this country, or even a decent republic, Jason (!) so let's stop kidding ourselves. Put a benevolent dictator in there (I'm available) and let's end this charade.

Don't we already have one? Oh, that's "compassionate conservative." Nevermind.

dissention · #56 06-21-2004, 04:40 PM

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Don't we already have one? Oh, that's "compassionate conservative." Nevermind.

No, he's a "uniter not a divider."

gldstwmn · #57 06-21-2004, 04:40 PM

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Do we watch the same press briefings?

The media is the biggest cheerleader for this administration. They believe everything they're told, print it as gospel, and then distort everything they're told. No offense to anyone who works in the media, but the media in general these days is just one big collective whore for this administration.

Remember how Drudge got the Pollier affair story into the mainstream just by putting it on his site?

estranged4life · #58 06-21-2004, 04:44 PM

shouldn't your Shrub nose-picking image have the following caption:

"Definitely not the pick of the year"

gldstwmn · #59 06-21-2004, 04:46 PM

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Again, I think they asked the questions. I mean W and his admin. have been asked why there were no WMD after all, he has been asked about the false linking of AL-Q and SH,

And he gave different answers to all of those questions. He flip flopped.

gldstwmn · #60 06-21-2004, 04:53 PM

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Spin and you know it. They did ask. The admin. sent Powell, Rice, and Cheney on countless shows to explain what was going on. They were asked point blank questions and they answered them. Again, I did not like some of the answers, but they were asked. What more could they have done?

Russert could have asked some more follow up questions other than the one he asked after he asked How are you?