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gldstwmn · #**226** 04-29-2004, 01:08 PM

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Lord Child - I and Goldie have said a few things on this board

I think Isreal has the potential to be great. They just are scared to lose any control over the land they were initially given and the land they subsequently acquired. So, they refuse to let anyone do anything they do not like or that will threaten their rule. It is, of course, far more complicated than that, but that is part of it. And, no American political party wants to anger the American Jews by making Isreal tow the line. So, Isreal can do what is wants withing reason and the definition of reason is growing.

I agreee with you 100%. The best thinkg they can do right now is to get rid of Sharon. His statement about wanting to kill Arafat is certain to have it's repercussions. It seems no small accident to me that the next day after he and Georgie had their little tryst that the leader of Hamas was killed.

DeeGeMe · #**227** 04-29-2004, 01:40 PM

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I agreee with you 100%. The best thinkg they can do right now is to get rid of Sharon. His statement about wanting to kill Arafat is certain to have it's repercussions. It seems no small accident to me that the next day after he and Georgie had their little tryst that the leader of Hamas was killed.

Yes-the timing was certainly curious on that, wasn't it? I'm not trying to say that I condone terrorism, because, clearly, I do not, but I can certainly understand what might push them to take the paths they sometimes take.

gldstwmn · #**228** 04-29-2004, 02:17 PM

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I would like to be in Japan myself, mainly for their one weapn of choice that they continually slay the mighty U.S. with...Electronics!!!

One word: Earthquakes.

gldstwmn · #**229** 04-29-2004, 02:20 PM

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Anyone see Lou Dobbs last night? ChimpCo is objecting to the idea that drugs be imported from Canada because it would result in the loss of American jobs. How ridiculous and hypocritical.

I missed Lou. Did he call Georgie on that pos Medicare bill he passed?

dissention · #**230** 04-29-2004, 02:54 PM

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I missed Lou. Did he call Georgie on that pos Medicare bill he passed?

I can't remember, but he held a conversation with one of his reporters on the importing that was completely sarcastic about the whole thing. He found it ridiculous. Lemme see if I can get a transcript of that portion.

Hawkeye · #**231** 04-29-2004, 03:12 PM

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Oh, c'mon. You must be delusional. Imperialism is the reason we invaded Iraq, not for anyhting else. We're trying to set up a colony over there.

And exactly where is the line of people who want to leave the US and live in Iraq. Colony in Iraq don't make me

dissention · #**232** 04-29-2004, 03:13 PM

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And exactly where is the line of people who want to leave the US and live in Iraq. Colony in Iraq don't make me

That's the ever freakin' point: Iraq backfired. Hello?!

Hawkeye · #**233** 04-29-2004, 03:13 PM

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Flamebait.

huh

strandinthewind · #**234** 04-29-2004, 10:03 PM

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That's the ever freakin' point: Iraq backfired. Hello?!

FOUL

You liberals have been screaming colonization was W's ultimate goal even though no facts supported that conclusion. Now, when it turns out we are not going to colonize - we get "Iraq backfired" Come on just admit you were wrong - Lord knows I fess up when I am

Hawkeye · #**235** 04-29-2004, 11:22 PM

Even if this werr for oil I really wpouldn't mind because thats a good a s reasonas any, really gas prices will be the thing that causes a country to collapse. So if thi swar would'v elowered them that'd have been fine in my book. But they haven't they've gone up

Rob67 · #**236** 04-30-2004, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I agreee with you 100%. The best thinkg they can do right now is to get rid of Sharon. His statement about wanting to kill Arafat is certain to have it's repercussions. It seems no small accident to me that the next day after he and Georgie had their little tryst that the leader of Hamas was killed.

And.????

Ok....refresher course, folks. Bad guys vs. good guys, 101.

Bad guys send their children onto crowded buses strapped with explosives and kill, not only themselves, but innocent women, children and men who have no military or political say. They are blindly following their leaders insane pleas with false promises of virgins, allah, and what not, much like the Japanese Kamikazi pilots of WWII. This is not a positive way to send a message to the rest of the world to be sympathetic to your cause.

Good guys, in retaliation, target top military and intelligence targets in hopes of cutting off the "heads" of the terrorist networks and stop the senseless attacks.

Any questions?

Rob

Vianna · #**237** 04-30-2004, 06:41 AM

Let's not forget the non-existent WMD's

Bush? Out the door in 2004!

dissention · #**238** 04-30-2004, 09:29 AM

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Even if this werr for oil I really wpouldn't mind because thats a good a s reasonas any, really gas prices will be the thing that causes a country to collapse. So if thi swar would'v elowered them that'd have been fine in my book. But they haven't they've gone up

What a cold and heartless statement. You should be ashamed. You advocate going into another country, starting a war, getting hundreds of our men and women murdered, getting thousands of Iraqi civilians murdered along with their babies, just so you can save 20 cents a gallon when you fill up your gas guzzler? How cold.

dissention · #**239** 04-30-2004, 09:31 AM

And how come no one has commented on the torturing of the Iraqi prisoners in Iraq? Coincidentally, it's happening in the same exact hospital/prison that Saddam supposedly had his rape and torture rooms. And we're in there picking up where he left off and tying electrical wires around the genitals of the prisoners and shocking them. Oh, and smiling as pictures are taken.

dissention · #**240** 04-30-2004, 09:38 AM

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FOUL

You liberals have been screaming colonization was W's ultimate goal even though no facts supported that conclusion. Now, when it turns out we are not going to colonize - we get "Iraq backfired" Come on just admit you were wrong - Lord knows I fess up when I am

Yeah, and you moderates always try to balance out the playing field by saying that, even though there are no facts that support we went in there to liberate.

Just because it comes out of the lips of Dubya, it doesn't mean it's fact. I think that's a fact right there.

Iraq did backfire. They didn't have a plan because they thought it would go as smooth as buttah. Which it did for the first month and then Shrub said "Mission accomplished." Mission accomplished my ass. They weren't expecting any of this stuff, they were unprepared. They thought they would go int here, say they're liberating these people, and be welcomed with open arms. And be given carte blanch with the oil fileds. They went in there with the intent that Iraq would be a sister of the US, there's no doubt about it. They wanted control of the oil, what better way than to go in there, spend billions of dollars, and then demand oil in return for their "services"?

And the colonization argument is given further credence when you look at who they want to run the country.