i hate George Bush!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Don't forget we found it on a turkey farm! One of the best lines from that press conference.

I forgot about that!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

On a lighter but related note - did you guys see that A Spector barely won the primary. The pundits are saying this could be bad for the R in Penn because Spector had to move to the right to counter his ultra right wing opponent- thus pissing off the centrist in that state. AND Penn is an apparent swing state.

The guy he was running against was clinically insane. He looked like a mental patinet, just the look in his eye.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

The guy he was running against was clinically insane. He looked like a mental patinet, just the look in his eye.

I know - but he lost by less than one or two percentage points. That is scary. I mean I could see that in Texas or Georgia, but Penn is not that conservative of a state That being said Le Spector is a bit of a loon himself

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Here is an interesting article on that day.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/t...estingday.html

I never knew there was a possible assination attempt - did you?

Puts tinfoil hat back on...Of course I did. There were also surface to air missles at the hotel Georgie was staying in.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

On a lighter but related note - did you guys see that A Spector barely won the primary. The pundits are saying this could be bad for the R in Penn because Spector had to move to the right to counter his ultra right wing opponent- thus pissing off the centrist in that state. AND Penn is an apparent swing state.

Lots of people think we (D) could pick up that seat. Bush has visited Pennsylvania more than any other state in his term as president.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Of course. But I will predict right now that there will be no elections. It's a sham government.

Hell, the USA has one of those right now! (Like the election in 2000 wasn't fixed? HA! Those who say it wasn't are fools)

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Arrogant? Yes. Egomaniacal? Absolutely. Destructive? Split decision. In retrospect, Nixon did as many good things as he did bad. Not to mention the man was extremely intelligent. The same cannot be said for W.

I was being sarcastic

I truly do not like ANY politician (Older I get, the more I hate the whole of politics!)

"I used to trust the media to tell me the truth.
Now I see the payoffs everywhere I look,
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?"-"Revolution Calling" Queensryche

[dissention]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

I truly do not like ANY politician (Older I get, the more I hate the whole of politics!)

Even Kucinich??? He's one of the most honorable politicians our country has ever seen. Same for Carol Moseley Braun.

[DeeGeMe]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Of course. But I will predict right now that there will be no elections. It's a sham government.

Screw the elections in Iraq--I'm worried that there won't be any elections in the US--not with Shrub & co. in charge! And considering what happened last time, and with the whole mess with the paper trail-less new electronic voting machines (the majority of which just happen to be manufactured by a huge Bush supporter)--does it really make any difference who we vote for anyway?

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by dissention

Even Kucinich??? He's one of the most honorable politicians our country has ever seen. Same for Carol Moseley Braun.

Kucinich & Braun too...The only political "folk" I ever cared for are on each of the $5, $10, $20, $50 & $100 bills because as the saying goes "Money talks & bulls--t walks"

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by DeeGeMe

Screw the elections in Iraq--I'm worried that there won't be any elections in the US--not with Shrub & co. in charge! And considering what happened last time, and with the whole mess with the paper trail-less new electronic voting machines (the majority of which just happen to be manufactured by a huge Bush supporter)--does it really make any difference who we vote for anyway?

Did you read the article in this week's Time magazine on this issue? It really is kind of scary how easily these things are broken/hacked into.

[DeeGeMe]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Did you read the article in this week's Time magazine on this issue? It really is kind of scary how easily these things are broken/hacked into.

Yep. I've read several articles from various sources lately about how easily these machines can be manipulated or hacked. My guess is that Bush will win the election no matter what because it's going to be rigged by Diebold.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Did you read the article in this week's Time magazine on this issue? It really is kind of scary how easily these things are broken/hacked into.

Did you read the cover story on Terea Heinz in Newsweek this week?

Gawd, I love that woman. Let me count the ways.

[stefan]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

you're kidding me right? We are the land of the free and the home of the brave and the best country there is.

That is probably one of the most ignorant and overbearing quotes one could make. Regardless where he comes from or where he lives.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Should the US leave the Middle East altoghether?

Abso-f***ing-lutely.
If we didn't need their oil, we would pay as much attention to them as we do Madagascar. There hasn't been peace in the region in my lifetime, or my parent's lifetimes. There won't be peace there, ever. I have said it before, and I'll say it again - we need to get off the oil tit, and out of that region. It will be the ruin of the planet, that cesspool of religious backbiting and bickering.