Condi Rice to testify--in public and under oath. . .

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Holy ****.

Howard Fineman, of all people, was just on Franken and he even said that todays testimony will be poison for Bush. Fineman's one of the biggest ChimpCo apologists out there and he said her testimony calls Shrub's leadership and credibility into serious question. Namely, his month long vacation...and the Aug. 6 memo...

[strandinthewind]

Has the 8/6/06 memo. been released in full?

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Holy ****, again.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20.../index_np.html

Clarke looks more and more like an honest man, folks.

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
Has the 8/6/06 memo. been released in full?

Not to my knowledge.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by dissention
Holy ****, again.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20.../index_np.html

Clarke looks more and more like an honest man, folks.

Clark's biggest credibility threat is that he supported W in public on more than one occasion and in writing. But, I do believe him. Moreover, I think W is taking the stupid position of deny, deny, deny and smile until it blows over. Again, W should say, they made a mistake and they are trying to make sure it never happens again. CR came close to saying that today but refused to admit she got caught in the fighting between the CIA and the FBI.

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
Clark's biggest credibility threat is that he supported W in public on more than one occasion and in writing. But, I do believe him. Moreover, I think W is taking the stupid position of deny, deny, deny and smile until it blows over. Again, W should say, they made a mistake and they are trying to make sure it never happens again. CR came close to saying that today but refused to admit she got caught in the fighting between the CIA and the FBI.

Dubya's problem is that if he's going to say that, he's going to wait until closer to the election and it's going to hurt him pretty badly. So, I hope he does.

And Kerry will be on Franken tomorrow at noon.

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This is what really bugs me about what Rice testified to:

She said that in the memo, there wasn't anything that told of who, when, where, and how the US would be attacked. Well, what the f*ck were they waiting for? Were they waiting for something to happen before they shook their "trees"? No, you shake all the "trees" that you can to find out that stuff! You don't just sit back and cry ignorance!

Then she said that she couldn't remember whether or not she told the president that there were Al-Q cells IN THE FREAKIN' UNITED STATES!!!! Then she tells Ben-Veniste that the title of the PDB was "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States" and that in the memo, it said "the FBI indicates patterns of suspicious activity in the United States consistent with preparations for hijacking"!!!!

What blatant contradictions!!!

Then she said that they believed that responding to the USS Cole bombing would "embolden" the terrorists! Bin Laden was expecting a response to it and that they didn't want to acknowledge the bombing, is what she said! This admin was investigating it and they knew that Bin Laden was responsible, but they wanted nothing to do with it! "Tit for tat" my fat ass.

This chick was unbelievable.

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BUMP

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Has the 8/6/06 memo. been released in full?

No. It will never be released publicly.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
No. It will never be released publicly.

I wonder if CR meant to read the title like she did? I mean the title, if not previously released, on its own certainly did not support her position.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Clark's biggest credibility threat is that he supported W in public on more than one occasion and in writing. But, I do believe him. Moreover, I think W is taking the stupid position of deny, deny, deny and smile until it blows over. Again, W should say, they made a mistake and they are trying to make sure it never happens again.

How very Dick Nixon of him. Tick tock, tick tock.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
I wonder if CR meant to read the title like she did? I mean the title, if not previously released, on its own certainly did not support her position.

I missed that part of the hearing. What I know is that the memo has been realeased only IN PART to the 9/11 Commission. The rest is classified. Only if it is leaked or stolen will it ever be seen in it's entirety.

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http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20040408_408.html

Some 9/11 Families Angered by No Apology from Rice




April 8 — By David Morgan
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Some relatives of Sept. 11 victims responded in anger on Thursday to what they described as the White House's failure to accept responsibility for the 2001 attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

Family members were among those in the crowded hearing room to listen to national security adviser Condoleezza Rice tell the 9-11 commission that bureaucratic structure was to blame for the administration's inability to counter the attacks.

"No one wants to take any responsibility. Three thousand people died, and all they want to talk about is structural problems," Bob McIlvaine of Oreland, Pennsylvania, whose son died in New York's World Trade Center.

"They should be ashamed of themselves," he said.

Many 9/11 relatives said the general public should have been warned about the potential for attack during the summer of 2001, when intelligence officials were said to have detected a surge in communications between suspicious operatives.

But during three hours of testimony before the bipartisan commission, Rice denied the Bush administration was negligent, countering testimony of former White House anti-terror czar Richard Clarke. Clarke told the commission on March 24 that the Bush White House ignored the urgent threat from al Qaeda.

"I am angry at the lack of accepting accountability -- that's what the president should have done, accepted responsibility," said Beverly Eckert of Stamford, Connecticut, whose husband Sean died at the World Trade Center.

"Instead, it's been outwardly directed, not just at the terrorists but at previous administrations."

Added New Jersey widow Patty Casazza: "I think it made her look incompetent in her position."

Clarke began his testimony by apologizing to victims and their families for government failings that allowed the attacks to occur.

Carie Lemack, whose mother also died in the attack on New York's World Trade Center towers, told CNN Rice should have admitted errors were made.

"We did not hear that today. I'm hoping we are going to hear that because it is clear that 3,000 people don't just get murdered. There were mistakes made and we need to fix them to make sure Americans are safer."

"... We're glad that she came forward and spoke. We're glad that it was in public, under oath, and we were able to get that information. But there is a lot more truth to be told," she added.

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OMG - Betty Bowers has spoken on Condie and it is hys f'in sterical

Dis - do not drink anything while reading

http://www.bettybowers.com/condoleezza.html

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
I wonder if CR meant to read the title like she did? I mean the title, if not previously released, on its own certainly did not support her position.

According to what Ben-Veniste just said on Faux News, she lied about it's contents being just "historical information." He said it was a combination of historical information and newly obtained information.