Haiti

[dissention]

Originally posted by Ali
It's only gonna end when everybody else stops wimping out and someone decides to finally step up to the plate (::coughSOMEONEINWESTERNEUROPEcough:: ). Until then, we're alone.

I just have to say something about the new banner in your sig, darling...

It hurts my eyes.

[Ali]

I am well aware of the implicit irony. It's an expression of affection for our president, not of any representation of feelings on homosexual marriage. Which I do whole-heartedly support.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
ABC got that info. from another country. Who knows if it is true. My question is what interest do we have in Haiti? Certainly not oil

Drug money for our covert operations godknowswherelse. Just a thought.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by Ali
It's only gonna end when everybody else stops wimping out and someone decides to finally step up to the plate (::coughSOMEONEINWESTERNEUROPEcough:: ). Until then, we're alone.

What are you talking about?

[Sarah]

Originally posted by Merf
Ali: just a comment on your banner, honey...

I think it's ironic that Dubya's pictures have been made into a colorbar banner, a banner that *originally* was made to support gay marriage, which of course, Dubya wants to ban.

It's a few shades short of a rainbow, Merfdawg. But irony does hurt.


Ditch all marriages. Unions are the logical answer if we're to be consistent with separation of church & state. Just my .02 on that. People should be able to be with - legally - whoever they want. Save "marriage" for the church.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Drug money for our covert operations godknowswherelse. Just a thought.

The Republicans do love to sell illegal things to make an end run around that obstructionist thing called Congress Can you say Iran/Contra and our American hero Ollie "hey - I was just following orders" North

But, why do we need Haiti? I thought that was what we were doing in Afganistan with all of those lovely poppies adn our puppet in place

P.S. Our conspiracy theory personages are showing

[Ali]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
What are you talking about?

I'm talking about how many countries are able to step up and do a lot of the things that the US does, both militarily and charitably and yet, do neither. Then they proceed to criticize the United States for doing anything.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
The Republicans do love to sell illegal things to make an end run around that obstructionist thing called Congress Can you say Iran/Contra and our American hero Ollie "hey - I was just following orders" North

But, why do we need Haiti? I thought that was what we were doing in Afganistan with all of those lovely poppies adn our puppet in place

P.S. Our conspiracy theory personages are showing

We have Afganistan for Heroin, so I'm suspecting weed and the white marching powder could be channeled through Haiti.
And yes, God knows the CIA and spook community can't be using good old Murikan tax dollars for this stuff. They have to use money that doesn't leave a trace.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by Ali
I'm talking about how many countries are able to step up and do a lot of the things that the US does, both militarily and charitably and yet, do neither. Then they proceed to criticize the United States for doing anything.

Are you talking about Iraq?

[greatdarkwing]

BTW, Things in Venezuela are getting VERY ugly...

~Alex

[Ali]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Are you talking about Iraq?

Well, kind of. I'm talking about a large amount of Western Europe. France and Germany in particular. They could be doing the same things as the US, both good and bad, but they're both too wimpish to step up to the world stage.

Let them wallow in their surrendered sovereignty. I hate the EU...but that's a whole other story altogether.

[dissention]

Originally posted by Ali
Well, kind of. I'm talking about a large amount of Western Europe. France and Germany in particular. They could be doing the same things as the US, both good and bad, but they're both too wimpish to step up to the world stage.

Let them wallow in their surrendered sovereignty. I hate the EU...but that's a whole other story altogether.

Are you forgetting that those countries are democracy's? If the people of those countries don't want to invade Iraq for selfish reasons like our country, good for them. They're smarter folks than the ones in the US (I would bet money that 75% of our citizens couldn't name our last ten presidents) and they know bull**** when they see it, the Iraq war being an example of said bull****. It isn't about being "wimpish", it's about right and wrong and they knew that invading Iraq was wrong.

As for hating the EU, they hate us, too.

[gldstwmn]

Originally posted by Ali


I hate

Ah, yes. The true hallmark of a Bush supporter. Love is hate and black is white. Best of luck to you.

[dissention]

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Ah, yes. The true hallmark of a Bush supporter. Love is hate and black is white. Best of luck to you.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by Ali
Well, kind of. I'm talking about a large amount of Western Europe. France and Germany in particular. They could be doing the same things as the US, both good and bad, but they're both too wimpish to step up to the world stage.

Let them wallow in their surrendered sovereignty. I hate the EU...but that's a whole other story altogether.

Ali - I agree the European countries seem to have only their interest at heart most fo the time. but, they are still our allies, etc. Personally, I think all countries including the U.S. usually act in their own self-interest 99% of the time and tout it as benovolent. I mean now we are saying we invaded Iraq to provide freedom for her citizens. But, that was not the reason we went in there, etc. The reason was to prevent Iraq for using its WMD (I know I know . . . ) against us, which was self-serving, etc. Now - there are no WMD and we are tauting altruistic goals, etc.