FM on friendly terms with Bob Welch?

[Sally]

I agree that Bob shouldn't have been left off. But with Billy, Rick, Dave, Bekka, etc....they technically couldn't be inducted based on the rules of induction, I think. I think it's 20+ years of involvement or something to that effect...because they were involved from '87 on, it hasn't been long enough really? Perhaps they could be added later? Would be interesting to find that out.

I just realized that paragraph is a bunch of mumbo-jumbo!

[CarneVaca]

Welch got squeezed, no question.

But to say Bekka and all the band members who followed Lindsey should have been inducted is a stretch. They had nothing to do with what made Fleetwood Mac Hall-worthy.

[David]

Originally posted by glitter_fades
Bob deserved a lot better than he ever got from Mick with everything including the RRHOF snub. Mick could have made sure he got in if he wanted to. I agree with John, silence is the same as saying, get lost. Just like Mick could do something about the fan club if he wanted to. We get silence from him and his managment.

I disagree. I don't think Mick Fleetwood had much pull with the executive committee to be able to demand the inclusion of an old bandmate. As to what Mick's personal thoughts were on the matter, I have no clue.

The way I heard it, Mick was definite about making sure Peter Green got the nod even though he spent some of the least time with the band. I also heard Lindsey was not big on all the fuss over Peter Green getting in.

Where did you hear that Lindsey felt that way about Peter's induction? Lindsey seems fully aware of Peter's genius & all-around importance not just to Fleetwood Mac but to blues & rock in general.

Yet, if not for Bob, Fleetwood Mac never would have migrated to the states. Without his timely exit, no LB or SN, and no hitting the jackpot for Mick, John and Chris. Bob should have been given his due.

But these are sociological concerns rather than aesthetic ones, & members of the executive committee may feel that, as such, they are of minimal importance. Bob Welch's importance to Fleetwood Mac in terms of keeping the group active, moving it to the United States, providing support to the others, etc., may not warrant Hall of Fame inclusion to the guys who make the decisions. Naturally, to us, Fleetwood Mac fans, they're important, but that's not what the Hall of Fame is really honoring, is it? Then again, maybe things are so mixed up, with so many double standards flying around, that who knows what's going on.

The question (probably) is whether Bob Welch's contributions as a songwriter & performer warrant the Hall of Fame honor. To me they do, but you can't assume that his aesthetic contributions left their mark on rock culture & art just because you yourself happen to dig them. I happen to think Rickie Lee Jones' brilliance as a songwriter & singer raise her far above the norm in rock, but Hall of Fame executive committee members may think she's nothing more than a footnote in the pages of rock history.

[DownOnRodeo]

I don't think Mick Fleetwood had much pull with the executive committee to be able to demand the inclusion of an old bandmate.

You're telling me - he couldn't even get a replacement for his lost trophy!
Maybe Bob nicked it heh

[Johnny Stew]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
You're telling me - he couldn't even get a replacement for his lost trophy!
Maybe Bob nicked it heh

I'm left to wonder if that would be a criminal act, or simply poetic justice!

[wetcamelfood]

With all due respect to Mr. Schmit (more of whom in a second), I think the R&RHOF "executive committee" most likely thinks of Timothy B. Schmit as a "footnote in history" but my point was, he still got in the hall with the REST of The Eagles and he certainly wasn't a "main creative force" in The Eagles or had much impact in the world of pop culture, or had involvement in that band for 20+ years etc.

So right or wrong, there WERE "strings pulled", by whoever, whatever the rules and whoever had the power to pull those strings, many (though respecfully not all) of us here feel as though they should've been pulled for the rest (or at least some like, Welch as some had said earlier) of the Mac members.

John

[chiliD]

I got an email from Bob this morning:

"Steve...Fences are all mended..."

Re: his relationship with Mick & John and the rest of the band.

He also said that Lynn Fleetwood called & invited him to the show. So, it seemed to me as if he was implying that Mick was the one who "made the first move" in reconciliation.

[Johnny Stew]

Thanks for that info, chiliD! That's excellent news indeed, and it serves to reinforce my faith in cycles.

(Hmm... that's a good quote... i should start using that!)

[Cammie]

David...I agree with your comments but do feel the
band always does what Mick directs!!! It was also
a shame... Peter Greenbaum played with Santana...
not those he was inducted with...Fleetwood Mac!
Glad chili got good news from Bob...fences mended!
The whole thing was rather strange!!! Cammie

[gypsysara]

Thanks for sharing Chili! PS - thought about you Chili the other day (even though I dont know you), saw a licence plate that said Chili (or something to that effect!)

[Tango]

Originally posted by chiliD
I got an email from Bob this morning:

"Steve...Fences are all mended..."

Re: his relationship with Mick & John and the rest of the band.

He also said that Lynn Fleetwood called & invited him to the show. So, it seemed to me as if he was implying that Mick was the one who "made the first move" in reconciliation.

Thanks Chili. I knew you were probably still stalking him.

[greenfire]

Originally posted by David
The executive board is the body that can either accept or deny the recommendations for induction made by the Hall committee. Apparently, Welch's nomination was discussed by the committee, even though some of the committee members don't remember that or say it didn't happen at meetings they attended.

But basically it was the executive board who made the final decision to induct the five 1977-era people & the three additional members from 1969. I would think that about all that the inducted members of Fleetwood Mac could have done in 1998 was to refuse the honor in protest of Welch's omission. But from everything I've read, it doesn't seem likely that they could have reversed the executive board's decision.

I feel strongly that Bob should be inducted with his fellow Fleetwood Mac bandmates into the Hall of Fame. You might say that it is just a title, but to a guy that spent a career in music, working hard, and I might say JMHO, but contributing some fine compositions to some of the fantastic albums of Fleetwood Mac. I think it would be a terrific tribute to him to be included with the rest of the band. Future Games, Bare Trees, Mystery to Me and Heroes are highly regarded by many fans and Bob had a strong role in contributing to the success of those albums.

Many who are honerd with Oscars, Grammy's are flattered that others note their performances and outstanding achievements to their medium. Whether it's the baseball hall of fame, hockey hall of fame or Rock'N'Roll Hall of fame, it's a great honer to the individual to be recognized. I think Bob Welch should be recognized along with Mick, John, Chris, Stevie, Lindsey, Danny & Jeremy. These were all significant contributors who helped define and progress the sound of Fleetwood Mac. Please do not let Bob be overlooked! I know it can be argued that Rick, Billy, Bekka & Dave should be acknoledged also, and that is a valid point. Does anyone know if it is possible to have these members ammended to the induction. Sort of like what is done with ammendments to the U.S. constitution, or what it would take to have them acknoledged? I only want to see what is right and honerable for this band, who's music I think so highly of. Please share your comments, good or bad!