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[ShangriLaTroubl]

Exactly what I meant Sparky, you put it in better words though...it still all comes back to the pay cut...if they band demanded 250k per show instead of say 600k per show, the ticket prices would in turn be cheaper..

Chris

[dissention]

Originally posted by sparky
But, this is all based and predicated on what the band demands to be paid. If a band demands in the range of 4-600k a show, which I am sure FM does, a promoter cannot risk losing money when a show only sells 60-70% of the house. They can't get in a situation where they can lose their shirt, because that is a hell of a shirt to lose.

They demanded $750k a night from what I read.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

I read that too Dissention, although that's it's been said they were gotten a significant amount less AFTER the first 40 shows...something like 100k for Stevie and Linz, and 50 k per night for John and Mick....who knows really what kind of deals they have going...



Chris

[sparky]

Originally posted by dissention
They demanded $750k a night from what I read.

That wouldn't surprise me a bit, though I never ran across that info.
I don't know how often they could reduce that on a tour after it has been booked, but depending on prior performance in certain markets, the promoters would have ammo to make them take a reduced rate.
It's real bitch to get a band to take a "reduction" after tickets go on sale, but if a show is stiffing, and they want to maintain their relationship with the promoter, they'll do it. Seeing as they were the #4 road act last year, I doubt their price has gone down much, if at all.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by dissention
That's not the point. The point is, this band was once about the music, not just money. That isn't the case anymore. And comparing their pricing and behavior with that of other acts is ridiculous. The fact is, they want as much cash as they can get and will spare nothing to get it, even the integrity they have left. We all heard Liddy Buck's cheesy explanation about ticket prices and that screamed of absurdity.

They can go ahead and charge the amounts of money that they do, but it doesn't mean that their fans aren't going to question their integrity and motives. They can put ****s like Toad in charge of their endeavors, but they should expect to come under fire from fans who feel cheated. We're simply cows being milked.

I have more respect for artists like Tom Petty who appreciate their fans for putting them where they are and making tickets affordable for them. They are to be commended, whereas FM needs a slap in their collective faces. I do not blindly worship these people and will not buy into the mentality that they do this "for the fans" because they don't. If Stevie cares as much about the fans as she says she does, why screw them over so much? I think I know why. Someone has to pay for the private jets and the diamond dog collars, so it might as well be us, huh?

Any band that treats fans so badly doesn't deserve any more success, IMO.

Didn't I teach this economic lesson last time we all got into this? In the end, it is supply and demand - period. Moreover, FM is far larger than TP has ever been or will be, they carry far more crew, and they play larger venues. Springsteen is as large if not larger. While he has his integrity, he also is a solo act and is worth already about $100 million off of touring rev. and rec. sales. So, he apparently does not mind being about music and money.

Also, since when has FM been about the music? They have always charged, to my recollection, the market price for tickets, have almost always recorded on an extravaggant basis (rented fancy houses, taken lots of people on tour with them, etc.)? So, I say, let them make what they can off of their product. Finally, as I pointed out several months ago, far less expensive seats available further back and higher up.

[sparky]

Originally posted by ShangriLaTroubl
if they band demanded 250k per show instead of say 600k per show, the ticket prices would in turn be cheaper..

Chris

IF.


I doubt it'll happen !

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by sparky
IF.


I doubt it'll happen !

There is no way and from a business perspective nor should they. The market dictates they can demand more. Until it does not (and it pretty much never will for this incarnation of FM), they will get their asking price. Them askking for less is along the same lines as someone paying the going rate for labor based on a 15 year old pay scale. And - idiots like me and several hundred thousand others will always pay

[sparky]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
There is no way and from a business perspective nor should they. The market dictates they can demand more. Until it does not (and it pretty much never will for this incarnation of FM), they will get their asking price. Them askking for less is along the same lines as someone paying the going rate for labor based on a 15 year old pay scale. And - idiots like me and several hundred thousand others will always pay

I agree, Strand. Them's the facts. I probably won't be going to more than one show on this tour, and it'll be a comped one at that, but tons of people will pay full price over and over.
My friends who are into pro sports constantly complain about the salaries of the payers, and I always tell them if they have a problem - don't go see them ! I don't !
At the end of the day, it is a business, and they know how much they can get. Why not ? I demand as much as I can get away with for a salary. Believe me, if I could 750k a night, I'd be demanding it.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by sparky
. . . Believe me, if I could 750k a night, I'd be demanding it.

Oh the scenarios that makes for

But, yea, you are right!

[sparky]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Oh the scenarios that makes for

But, yea, you are right!

You have no idea.


At this point, covering the mortgage in a night's work would be just fine.

[dissention]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Didn't I teach this economic lesson last time we all got into this? In the end, it is supply and demand - period. Moreover, FM is far larger than TP has ever been or will be, they carry far more crew, and they play larger venues. Springsteen is as large if not larger. While he has his integrity, he also is a solo act and is worth already about $100 million off of touring rev. and rec. sales. So, he apparently does not mind being about music and money.

Also, since when has FM been about the music? They have always charged, to my recollection, the market price for tickets, have almost always recorded on an extravaggant basis (rented fancy houses, taken lots of people on tour with them, etc.)? So, I say, let them make what they can off of their product. Finally, as I pointed out several months ago, far less expensive seats available further back and higher up.

Yeah, that's all fine and dandy, but we're not just talking about their ticket prices; we're talking about their business practices and greed overall. And they are charging way above the average ticket price, which I just read as being $70. The greatest hits show that they're touring with at the moment is not worth $150 a ticket. it just isn't. And if they weren't so ridiculously extravagant on the road, the ticket prices wouldn't be so high. It all comes down to greed in the end, unfortunately.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by sparky
You have no idea.


At this point, covering the mortgage in a night's work would be just fine.

[diamondsnake]

Originally posted by dissention
And if they weren't so ridiculously extravagant on the road, the ticket prices wouldn't be so high. It all comes down to greed in the end, unfortunately.

How are the ridiculously extravagent? I haven't heard too many stories this tour.

[dissention]

Originally posted by diamondsnake
How are the ridiculously extravagent? I haven't heard too many stories this tour.

Massages? A ten piece band? A private jet? Those are extravagances right there.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by dissention
Massages? A ten piece band? A private jet? Those are extravagances right there.

Not to mention Lindsey and Stevie could share a one bed motel room instead of having sep. suites at different hotels.

Sorry - I could not resist that being a closet shipper