Stevie Nicks- the queen or rock and roll? - Page 2

diamondsnake · #16 02-04-2004, 10:23 PM

Well I just get annoyed when whenever I refer to her as the queen of rock, everyone looks at me like I made that up and am just saying that to make Stevie Look good.

GypsySorcerer · #17 02-04-2004, 10:29 PM

I think Stevie is deserving of the title Queen of Rock, but there are others who have deserved the title as well, as artists who are at their peak. I think it is impossible to name one woman the Queen of Rock.

But the High Priestess of Rock and Rock and Roll Ballerina suit her always.

ricohv · #18 02-04-2004, 10:37 PM

I think she deserves it, especially because of the word "Rock". Even Tina Turner, who did rock-a-little on some songs, didn't start in rock, and didn't really stay there, judging by her last couple albums. The Pantyhose album or whatever was very lite popish. And Chrissy Hynde has had some duration but not the visibility or solo career of Stevie's, Debbie Harry isn't really rock and isn't even as consistent as our inconsistent Stevie. And Pat Benatar didn't even rate for a VH1 Where Are They Now.
Also, none of the Rolling Stone reviews have ever been terribly favorable, but Wild Heart by far got the worst. (Is it really the worst though if it is the featured review of that edition and is lengthy and analytical or could Street Angel be considered the worst because even though they didn't rake her over the coals they wrote maybe two short paragraphs and slid the review in towards the end of their reviews almost as an afterthought). I'm not sure that Stevie quit talking to them though. It might be that they quit talking to her as she was no longer the New Hot Thing. I mean, she did still talk to them after they gave Fleetwood Mac (and particularly her) some bad press. JMO!
Ricoh

darklinensuit · #19 02-04-2004, 11:11 PM

Stevie is the Queen of Rock.
She sings, she writes, she performs, she inspires, she influences...
She has epitomized the Rock music and the Rock lifestyle.
Tina Turner, Grace Slick, and Pat Benatar have made impacts, but Stevie is the one who has done it all.

Wasn't there an article in 2001 where a woman recalls her own childhood, when Rock had many kings but only one queen? (Correct me if I'm remembering incorrectly.)

- Jake

LilyRose · #20 02-05-2004, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by greatdarkwing
I'll never forget that first year of the diva's show when the last half hour became the Aretha Franklin show....The looks on all the other divas faces said it all..."wtf is this b!tch doing?!" LMAO!!! If you can find it...look at how annoyed Celine Dion is....It makes me laugh every time...Shes all upset cause it wasn't titled the Celine Dion show...

~Alex

I totally remember that! I remember poor little Gloria Estefan (who's only an inch taller than Stevie) was down at the end of the line of divas (you've got Aretha, Celine, and Mariah with that big ol rat nest of hair she had that night) and you couldn't even see her much less hear her...especially over Aretha.

I don't mind hearing Aretha songs on the radio, but seeing her perfom just annoys the hell out of me.

Susie

ricohv · #21 02-05-2004, 07:59 AM

Hey DiamondSnake:
Whenever you refer to her as the queen of rock, and everyone looks at you like you made that up and are just saying that to make Stevie look good, instead of feeliong like they think you are a drooling fan, I think you should ask yourself (as we all should!):

WHAT CAN I MAKE UP AND SAY JUST TO MAKE STEVIE LOOK GOOD?
and then when you think it up, start saying it. Saying it to everyone repeated times over a course of time will give it validity. Then come and post it here and we'll all start saying it, along with all of the fabrications that we think up collectively. And before long Rolling Stone will do a year's worth of cover photos and stories on Stevie, crowning her the eternal queen of rock-the alpha and the omega-, and detailing how she is the best singer song writer in history, selling more albums than than the Beatles and Elvis combined, being the most important female musical influence on everyone from Patsy Cline to Lil Kim.
Don't let the foolish mortals get you down! You've got to beat them at their own game!!
Ricoh

MACFAN · #22 02-05-2004, 10:48 PM

Tina Turner never struck me as rock and roll. More like a character out of a Bette Midler show. Always seemed a bit loungey and staged to me. Also that dance during Proud Mary is good for a laugh, almost marionette like.

Sugar · #23 02-06-2004, 05:27 PM

I can't believe no one has mentioned Janis Joplin in all of this, who is, of course, Stevie's biggest influence. But I guess it depends on your definition of "queen". When it comes to females in rock, to me, it all starts with Janis.

dissention · #24 02-06-2004, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by MACFAN
Tina Turner never struck me as rock and roll. More like a character out of a Bette Midler show. Always seemed a bit loungey and staged to me. Also that dance during Proud Mary is good for a laugh, almost marionette like.

You obvioulsy haven't seen her live. The woman is the *definition* of the Queen of Rock, doll. She rocks harder onstage than Stevie EVER did, even during the RAL era.

I don't get the Bette Midler comparison. I'm a huge Bette fan and a Tina Turner-like character would be completely out of palce at one of her shows.

Johnny Stew · #25 02-06-2004, 06:23 PM

Tina is simply amazing.. the woman has energy to spare, and she doesn't hold back one bit on stage.
She's a performer, and she gives her all.

I don't think I'd necessarily categorize her as "rock," but she's definitely the Queen of something!
Tina is peerless, so maybe she's just "The Queen," period.

dissention · #26 02-06-2004, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Stew
Tina is simply amazing.. the woman has energy to spare, and she doesn't hold back one bit on stage.
She's a performer, and she gives her all.

I don't think I'd necessarily categorize her as "rock," but she's definitely the Queen of something!
Tina is peerless, so maybe she's just "The Queen," period.

Exactly.

And while her albums *after* Break Every Rule aren't really rock, every one of her shows is a rock show. I mean, she's the hardest working performer in the biz (or, rather, she was) and it showed when she took the stage.

Johnny Stew · #27 02-06-2004, 06:31 PM

'Break Every Rule' is my favorite Tina album, and title-track is one of my favorite Tina songs.
She's definitely had some "rock and roll" moments throughout her career, but overall I think i'd put her more in the "pop" category.

Her last couple of albums have been a little too AC for me, but there are still some definite gems on each of them ("When The Heartache Is Over" is amazing).

Maybe we should start a Tina Appreciation thread over on the Chit-Chat Forum!