Tonight - Bill O v. Bill M - Page 27

dissention · #**391** 01-14-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
Its on the list behind many I am kind of surprised O'Neill did not wait until Sept. 1, 2004 to release it. Talk about more of punch then. Sadly, the true things in the book will probably be forgotten or at least their effect lessened over the next 10 or so months.

I know what you mean, there are so many I want to read. I've been wanting to read Joe Klein's book on the Clinton admin for a year. But the anti-Bush books take precedent.

strandinthewind · #**392** 01-14-2004, 04:06 PM

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http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~chazell...le-nolink.html

AMAZING essay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dissention · #**393** 01-14-2004, 04:07 PM

Hey,

Whoopi is going to be talking politics on Hardball tonight. Should be fabulous!

gldstwmn · #**394** 01-14-2004, 04:25 PM

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http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/U...es_040113.html

A White House official confirms O'Neill's statements!

Houston, we have a problem!

gldstwmn · #**395** 01-14-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
W did not lose the Florida election, he won it - even the New York Times admits that!

He only won because the recount was stopped. If all of the votes were recounted (which is what Gore should have asked for) I don't think Dumbo, I mean W, would be president.

gldstwmn · #**396** 01-14-2004, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by estranged4life
said a very true statement about Al "I created the internet, Fleetwood Mac, the telephone, William Shatner, the Earth ." Gore..."He didnt lose because of Florida, He lost because he could not win his own home state of Tennessee."

Brian j.

True.

gldstwmn · #**397** 01-14-2004, 04:36 PM

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At the present moment, I don't believe a word that comes out of O'Neill's mouth. Not one word. Someone has gotten to him. I'll stick by anything he said before Monday, but nothing else. He's been gotten to.

Agreed. Someone's twisting his arm.. There is a rumor that the Dems have had the galleys of this book for quite some time and have formulated part of their strategy from it.

gldstwmn · #**398** 01-14-2004, 04:39 PM

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At the present moment, I don't believe a word that comes out of O'Neill's mouth. Not one word. Someone has gotten to him. I'll stick by anything he said before Monday, but nothing else. He's been gotten to.

Before I start spouting my scary, extreme liberal conspiracy theories, anyone want to take a crack as to why they might be doing this?

gldstwmn · #**399** 01-14-2004, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by estranged4life
about O'Neill on the "Today Show" earlier he sure didn't sound like a person who wanted to expose the President...

And what was really odd & confusing though is that he made sure to mention several times the co-author of the book (I cannot recall his name, But he was present on the "Today Show" appearance) should take a majority of the credit...

Brian j.

I think an awful lot of people are interested in what Mr. O'Neill and Ron Suskind say in the book. I went to Barnes and Noble last night to get it and it had been sold out for hours.

strandinthewind · #**400** 01-14-2004, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by gldstwmn
He only won because the recount was stopped. If all of the votes were recounted (which is what Gore should have asked for) I don't think Dumbo, I mean W, would be president.

Well, Florida did recount all of the votes twice and W still won - should they have kept counting until he did not?

Then Gore, in his brilliance, said, let's just manually recount these jurisdictions in which I am popular - how's that for sleazy? The results of every recount I ever read about in those districts indicated W won those districts. So, perhaps I should rephrase - By the recount rules set by Gore, W won the election.

Interestingly, if Gore had sued to recount the state and had the court issue a uniform plan for the recount, the USSC could not have reached the decision it did. It reached its decision because votes were being counted differently in each county, which is a violation of the US Const.

strandinthewind · #**401** 01-14-2004, 04:44 PM

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Before I start spouting my scary, extreme liberal conspiracy theories, anyone want to take a crack as to why they might be doing this?

Form one conspiracy theorist to another

I think he took classified docs and they are threatening jail time - and rightly so if PO broke the law.

Also, I think all along PO has not hated the R party. I think he dislikes but not hates W partly because he got fired.

gldstwmn · #**402** 01-14-2004, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
Form one conspiracy theorist to another I think he took classified docs and they are threatening jail time - and rightly so if PO broke the law.

Also, I think all along PO has not hated the R party. I think he dislikes but not hates W partly because he got fired.

Oops! That was actually my reply to this statement:

"Under a new proposal, the White House would decide what and when the public would be told about an outbreak of mad cow disease, an anthrax release, a nuclear plant accident or any other crisis."

strandinthewind · #**403** 01-14-2004, 04:48 PM

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Oops! That was actually my reply to this statement:

"Under a new proposal, the White House would decide what and when the public would be told about an outbreak of mad cow disease, an anthrax release, a nuclear plant accident or any other crisis."

Terrifying. Think along the lines of "The Americans are not in Bagdad - everthing is normal!"

gldstwmn · #**404** 01-14-2004, 04:51 PM

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Terrifying. Think along the lines of "The Americans are not in Bagdad - everthing is normal!"

Uh huh.

dissention · #**405** 01-14-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by gldstwmn
I think an awful lot of people are interested in what Mr. O'Neill and Ron Suskind say in the book. I went to Barnes and Noble last night to get it and it had been sold out for hours.

I went to B&N yesterday, too, and I grabbed the last copy. The woman at the check-out told me that so many copies had been sold and restocked that she'd be glad if she never saw it again.

For the first time, I think this book of politics appeals to both neoconservatives (facists) and liberals (smart folks).

I can't wait to see how else ChimpCo will spin this book!