Tonight - Bill O v. Bill M - Page 8

estranged4life · #**106** 01-11-2004, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
Agreed, but I was talking about the use of force being legitimate under the law. It was. Now - we could argue all day about was that the best method, etc.

True...

The use of force never bothered me, Just the fall-out that came afterwards...

Brian j.

jwd · #**107** 01-11-2004, 07:53 PM

Okay that was fun(ny), but seriously(back to the topic somewhat) I wanted to say that Bill Maher's show Politically Incorrect was a piece of crap. You liberals talk about how biased O'Reilly supposedly is. How can you not say that his show was nothing more than liberal propaganda? His panel was undisputedly tilted in his favor or in favor of his viewpoints. Not to mention his audience. I think Bill just wanted to "make believe" that almost everyone agreed with him. Puhhlease!!!

Joe

gldstwmn · #**108** 01-11-2004, 07:55 PM

Going down the Clinton road is a complete waste of time.

strandinthewind · #**109** 01-11-2004, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by jwd
Okay that was fun(ny), but seriously(back to the topic somewhat) I wanted to say that Bill Maher's show Politically Incorrect was a piece of crap. You liberals talk about how biased O'Reilly supposedly is. How can you not say that his show was nothing more than liberal propaganda? His panel was undisputedly tilted in his favor or in favor of his viewpoints. Not to mention his audience. I think Bill just wanted to "make believe" that almost everyone agreed with him. Puhhlease!!!

Joe

People IMO and we are all guilty of it

call everything they do not believe in crap and everything they believe in the truth. For example, Bill O. is far from a very conservative right winger - he's for gun control, he is for the govt. not being able to shove religion down anyone's throat, he is against the death penalty in most cases, etc. Yet, few liberal will admit that. Now, they are right about Coultergeist

Mad4stevie · #**110** 01-11-2004, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
I am not saying that. I think they should be slammed from here to hell for that if for nothing else than for their stupidity in going it. IMO, they did not need to because they could have just relied on SH unwillingness for 11 years to comply with his agreement to demonstrate he had destroyed his WMD. Also, W has already admitted the nuclear thing was a mistake.

Interestingly, the Clinton administration used almost all of the same intelligence to justify its bombing of Iraq and its maintenance of the "no fly zones," which the UN never really officially sanctioned. So, W is not alone in this boat IMO.

Very good point.

strandinthewind · #**111** 01-11-2004, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by gldstwmn
Going down the Clinton road is a complete waste of time.

Agreed, but I think it is waste of time to go down that same road with W for the reasons I stated earlier.

gldstwmn · #**112** 01-11-2004, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by Sugar
So are we saying that it is not a big deal that Bush overstated reasons to go to war, especially since the administration seems real close to admitting that?

Thank you for taking this "pshychotic horse galloping towards a burning barn" thread back onto topic. Like I said, the Clinton redux is completely uselesss, unless you are trying to feel better about justifying your own politics.

jwd · #**113** 01-11-2004, 07:58 PM

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gldstwmn:
Going down the Clinton road is a complete waste of time.

Oh I thought we were reviewing the high set of standards established for the Presidency of the U.S.A.

Joe

estranged4life · #**114** 01-11-2004, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by jwd
Okay that was fun(ny), but seriously(back to the topic somewhat) I wanted to say that Bill Maher's show Politically Incorrect was a piece of crap.

Joe

I hated having to wait for his show to go off just to watch Nightline...I tried giving it a chance but I just couldnt be "fair and balanced®©" enough to care to (There FOX-News, I added yer lil' pathetic copyright & registered symbols...Dont mistake me for Stuart "Al Franken" Smalley)

Brian "Politicians-Gods' lil' sick joke" j.

gldstwmn · #**115** 01-11-2004, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
Agreed, but I think it is waste of time to go down that same road with W for the reasons I stated earlier.

Sorry, he's the sitting president. I don't expect you to agree with my views but I do have a right to state them. The Bush regime bears similarities to that of Nazi Germany. If we want to start criticizing past presidents, we'd be here for a very long time.

gldstwmn · #**116** 01-11-2004, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by jwd
Oh I thought we were reviewing the high set of standards established for the Presidency of the U.S.A.

Joe

No just the current administration.

Mad4stevie · #**117** 01-11-2004, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by gldstwmn
Going down the Clinton road is a complete waste of time.

As I have stated many times, I just think everyone should be judged by the same "presidential" standard.

Mad4stevie · #**118** 01-11-2004, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by gldstwmn
The Bush regime bears similarities to that of Nazi Germany.

Am I the only one who is scared by this?!

I don't think I will ever "get" it!

Sugar · #**119** 01-11-2004, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by Mad4stevie
As I have stated many times, I just think everyone should be judged by the same "presidential" standard.

So does this mean that it's OK that the Bush Administration lied since Clinton did?

gldstwmn · #**120** 01-11-2004, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by Mad4stevie
Am I the only one who is scared by this?!

I don't think I will ever "get" it!

I'm not asking you to "get it." Do you have any defense of the Bush administration besides former President Clinton?