The Reagans - Page 22

darklinensuit · #**316** 01-07-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by greatdarkwing

About Elian.....I was 50/50 on it.....the problem is that I KNOW for a fact how terrible Fidel Castro is. Recently I had an uncle who was killed in Cuba for trying to smuggle meat off of the black market. For me, it was the most horrible news I could have ever recieved. All he was trying to do was save his family from hunger....I am teary-eyed right now even recalling this.(This happened 6 months ago). I also have an aunt who has had to have BOTH her legs amputated because she could not get proper medical attention.
~Alex

- Jake

greatdarkwing · #**317** 01-07-2004, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by darklinensuit

- Jake

I dont think words can express my anguish and the ANGER i have towards that man....the people in that country are SICK of it....Nothing makes me sadder than to think about it...

~Alex

gldstwmn · #**318** 01-07-2004, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
I actually like the somewhat related fingerprinting thing. I think it is a logical way to keep track of people in a way that really cfannot be altered like a passport can be fake, etc.

I agree, the fingerprinting thing is a fine idea. However, the reason I am calling this "do nothing' is that I think that only a small percentage of them are actually going to submit to this.

gldstwmn · #**319** 01-07-2004, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by greatdarkwing
I dont think words can express my anguish and the ANGER i have towards that man....the people in that country are SICK of it....Nothing makes me sadder than to think about it...

~Alex

How do you feel about the sanctions?

darklinensuit · #**320** 01-07-2004, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by greatdarkwing
I dont think words can express my anguish and the ANGER i have towards that man....the people in that country are SICK of it....Nothing makes me sadder than to think about it...

~Alex

The kind of anger that comes from knowing that this man wronged you and yours, but no justice can be expected. I can't even imagine.

- Jake

greatdarkwing · #**321** 01-07-2004, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by gldstwmn
How do you feel about the sanctions?

Once again 50/50...Yes, I feel they do worsen the situation, but yet I could not imagine one more penny heading in Castro's pocket....Its just such a terrible situation...My family and I have been WAITING for the bastard to die...but he just seems to live on and on....funyn how the people who DESERVE to die never do...

~Alex

greatdarkwing · #**322** 01-07-2004, 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by darklinensuit
The kind of anger that comes from knowing that this man wronged you and yours, but no justice can be expected. I can't even imagine.

- Jake

No Justice....except the fall of Communism once and for all in the Western Hemisphere after his death....might not be justice, but just as sweet.

~Alex

greatdarkwing · #**323** 01-07-2004, 07:40 PM

BTW, thank you for helping to keep things civilized...I know we disagree politically...and it feels good to be able to have a a great discussion...

~Alex

P.S. Your understanding has made me confident to tell my story....I never thought I would tell it. I feared people would never understand...

strandinthewind · #**324** 01-07-2004, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by greatdarkwing
Once again 50/50...Yes, I feel they do worsen the situation, but yet I could not imagine one more penny heading in Castro's pocket....Its just such a terrible situation...My family and I have been WAITING for the bastard to die...but he just seems to live on and on....funyn how the people who DESERVE to die never do...

~Alex

I know. I think we should have overthrown Castro or paid someone to do it

years ago. Or, we should have bought Cuba from Castro years ago and made it a territory like P.R. Although I am unsure whether the Cubans would have liked that, I am sure they would be better off now. I mean I know American healthcare has its problems, but certainly it is better than the Cuban system that harmed your relative.

gldstwmn · #**325** 01-07-2004, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
I don't think Lieberman being Jewish has anyhting to do with the race, he just isn't a good candidate.

You have been living on the liberal east coast for too long my friend. There are people out there in middle America who won't vote for Lieberman because he is Jewish just like they won't vote for Carol or Sharpton because they are black. Some people are completely freaked out by anyone but a white man being the president of this country.

gldstwmn · #**326** 01-07-2004, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by greatdarkwing
Once again 50/50...Yes, I feel they do worsen the situation, but yet I could not imagine one more penny heading in Castro's pocket....Its just such a terrible situation...My family and I have been WAITING for the bastard to die...but he just seems to live on and on....funyn how the people who DESERVE to die never do...

~Alex

Once again it reinforces my belief that we are in hell. That's a whole other thread, though.

Won't his son take over once he dies? I guess if it were me, it would piss me off that my government (US) just does nothing about it. Are they complicit in some way?

strandinthewind · #**327** 01-07-2004, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by gldstwmn
You have been living on the liberal east coast for too long my friend. There are people out there in middle America who won't vote for Lieberman because he is Jewish just like they won't vote for Carol or Sharpton because they are black. Some people are completely freaked out by anyone but a white man being the president of this country.

I think you neabt a white male WASP, because, if memory serves me correctly, Kennedy was the only Catholic President. And even then, people were questioning whether a "Papist" could give his allegence to two factors. They thought the Pope would control America. Interestingly, in about 1533, i.e. about 400 years ago, people were still making this argument; in fact Henry VIII used, inter alia, it as the reason to form the Church of England of which he was head.

Also, there is the argument that as Jewish President would through the state of Israel into chaos because the Arabs could never consider a Jewish President of the U.S. as neutral (like the R and D Christians are any better

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greatdarkwing · #**328** 01-07-2004, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by gldstwmn
Once again it reinforces my belief that we are in hell. That's a whole other thread, though.
Won't his son take over once he dies? I guess if it were me, it would piss me off that my government (US) just does nothing about it. Are they complicit in some way?

His son will TRY to take over...There have been rumors running around since the 70's that there are plans for the day Castro dies....I guess that means we will go into the island to prevent his Son from taking over. This does make sense....it is a liability to have a communist nation like Cuba only 90 miles from our shore. (Cuban Missle Crisis) Even if we dont go in there, I am sure the government will be overthrown...the only reason you see so many people at his speeches is b/c the people in the surrounding areas are FORCED (You have to check in....if not you are considered anti-revolutionary and are sent to trial....yes folks...for not attending his rallies) to go to these speeches. The people have had it, and you can expect the government to probably fall on the pressure of the people.

~Alex

gldstwmn · #**329** 01-07-2004, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by strandinthewind

I think you neabt a white male WASP, because, if memory serves me correctly, Kennedy was the only Catholic President. And even then, people were questioning whether a "Papist" could give his allegence to two factors.

Yes I should have clarified WASP.

My mother used to tell me about the uproar Kennedy created.

gldstwmn · #**330** 01-07-2004, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by greatdarkwing
His son will TRY to take over...There have been rumors running around since the 70's that there are plans for the day Castro dies....I guess that means we will go into the island to prevent his Son from taking over. This does make sense....it is a liability to have a communist nation like Cuba only 90 miles from our shore. (Cuban Missle Crisis) Even if we dont go in there, I am sure the government will be overthrown...the only reason you see so many people at his speeches is b/c the people in the surrounding areas are FORCED (You have to check in....if not you are considered anti-revolutionary and are sent to trial....yes folks...for not attending his rallies) to go to these speeches. The people have had it, and you can expect the government to probably fall on the pressure of the people.

~Alex

I've always wondered why the US tolerates Castro, especially some of the more hawkish administrations we've had. I think in a certain way Cuba is under our thumb. It bothers me that we've got a third world dictator 90 miles off shore, yet we'll run half way around the world to "liberate" people for whatever reason. It makes me wonder what the US is getting out of it.