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Old 05-03-2026, 09:51 AM
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Just watched this and I haven’t seen The Dance in an age.
ISA is, as his daughter says….so good.


I do find it weird he doesn’t remember Stevie staring him out during SS.
Yes I agree, don’t read anything into it…it’s a performance, nothing more.
Even so…..
It was a big deal at the time….I remember first time I saw it and was blown away.
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Old 05-03-2026, 10:21 AM
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Just watched this and I haven’t seen The Dance in an age.
ISA is, as his daughter says….so good.


I do find it weird he doesn’t remember Stevie staring him out during SS.
Yes I agree, don’t read anything into it…it’s a performance, nothing more.
Even so…..
It was a big deal at the time….I remember first time I saw it and was blown away.
I almost watched The Dance last night, but just couldn't. There are so many overdubs, that it just doesn't feel.... organic. Or cyclical.

Seriously. Mirage will always be my favorite concert video. They were at the height of their voices, looks, and everything else!
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Old 05-03-2026, 11:56 AM
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I almost watched The Dance last night, but just couldn't. There are so many overdubs, that it just doesn't feel.... organic. Or cyclical.

Seriously. Mirage will always be my favorite concert video. They were at the height of their voices, looks, and everything else!
True..it’s so very exciting I can even forgive Stevie’s forced Vibrato…just
They all look amazing..
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I love Stevie's scream after the first "...never break the chain!" at the Mirage concert.

But I understand that she had to take care of his voice in 1997. She could no longer afford excesses in that regard.
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I love Stevie's scream after the first "...never break the chain!" at the Mirage concert.

But I understand that she had to take care of his voice in 1997. She could no longer afford excesses in that regard.
IMHO her peak vocal powers were 1980 to 1983 (before The Wild Heart Tour). Her voice started its decline during that tour doing copious amounts of blow with Joe. She was still hitting the highest note on Sara during the Mirage tour during the oooooo oooooo's. Bella Donna and that short tour showcased her amazing vocals. I hate Gate and Garden but no doubt it's one of her best vocal performances. Its drowning in background vocals which were not needed. Long story short her last tour of full vocal power was Mirage and she had no problem showing off that power thus The Chain scream.
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Just watched this and I haven’t seen The Dance in an age.
ISA is, as his daughter says….so good.


I do find it weird he doesn’t remember Stevie staring him out during SS.
Yes I agree, don’t read anything into it…it’s a performance, nothing more.
Even so…..
It was a big deal at the time….I remember first time I saw it and was blown away.
perhaps he doesn't see it as anything earthshattering because he hasn't watched it 1000 times obsessively on tiktok as shippers have lol

I remember being very moved by it in 97 the first time i saw the dance. The whole concert was moving for me... but that particular clip has just taken on a life of its own in terms of mythology.

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I remember being very moved by it in 97 the first time i saw the dance. The whole concert was moving for me...
100% agree. The only fact of watching them reunited... I was ecstatic. About those SS look between them. I wanted to think they just remembered all those old feelings when they were together, but just that, nothing more, and decided it was a cool performance so they repeated during the tour.

I remember in the NYC 1997 gig they mentioned Lindsey's family was in the audience and were thankful they came to see them on Thanksgiving evening. And probably Kristen was there too, I'm not sure when they started to date.
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There are so many overdubs, that it just doesn't feel.... organic. Or cyclical.
What about the cycles that keep coming around! Shouldn't that reinforce your faith in them?
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However his comment about the SS looks, about saying people read too much into things.. come on they knew the effect that scene would have and it was more than planned. Gimme a break
Yes. Stevie has said she deliberately held back the first night of The Dance taping, because she wanted to save her emotional performance for the second night. So, it was definitely planned. As for Lindsey, he knew it was powerful that’s why they replicated it during the tour. On the other hand, I don’t think he thought it was a particularly big deal. That’s just another Tuesday in Fleetwood Mac. He knows they always get a crowd reaction when they exchange moments. The Mirage tour was testament to that.

The internet has resurrected SS since Daisy Jones and the Sixth made younger people look up Fleetwood Mac videos. I have to believe that Leelee has mentioned it to her dad in the past. She didn’t just make that observation to him for the first time. He said his girls had him doing the Dreams cranberry juice stunt, so I know they discuss social media with him occasionally. He was just trying to play dumb.

I wish his kids would show him excerpts from his long NTF live performance and tease him about it: one because of the marijuana and, two because he was trying to be sexy. Well, I think he succeeded in that, but I’m sure his children would find it hysterically funny.
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What about the cycles that keep coming around! Shouldn't that reinforce your faith in them?
They have reinforced my belief that we're witnessing the band of my life, cycling into assisted living and funeral homes. As sad as that is.
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I wish his kids would show him excerpts from his long NTF live performance and tease him about it: one because of the marijuana and, two because he was trying to be sexy. Well, I think he succeeded in that, but I’m sure his children would find it hysterically funny.
Yes, it would be interesting and fun to know what they think about NTF.

I think I'm one of those few ledgies who does like NTF, specially the Mirage live performance. I know it is not a masterpiece, but I enjoy it because I can see they are having fun. Well, and I think I've said this before, I always watch it while drinking a (or several ) glass of wine, that way I enjoy it more.
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perhaps he doesn't see it as anything earthshattering because he hasn't watched it 1000 times obsessively on tiktok as shippers have lol

I remember being very moved by it in 97 the first time i saw the dance. The whole concert was moving for me... but that particular clip has just taken on a life of its own in terms of mythology.

--Lis
I remember being really moved by the whole concert in 97 -- it's what made me re-focus on FM after mostly following LB's solo career after Tango. But the level of mythology, or lore, that has arisen from those looks among younger people on social media is even bigger than what is was at the time. Something about watching isolated clips just blows up these moments.

I take LB at face value when he says he doesn't remember -- it's moments during a show where he was also performing and probably thinking of other things as well, in the midst of a whirlwind highly successful comeback of a band that had a gazillion intense stage moments that weren't captured on camera.

I also think LB probably would downplay all of the stage interaction on some level -- because it is a performance, maybe reflecting something real that happened, but so much has happened between him and Stevie for the 60+ years that they've known each other, that this may not even be a huge one for him personally.
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Yes, it would be interesting and fun to know what they think about NTF.

I think I'm one of those few ledgies who does like NTF, specially the Mirage live performance. I know it is not a masterpiece, but I enjoy it because I can see they are having fun. Well, and I think I've said this before, I always watch it while drinking a (or several ) glass of wine, that way I enjoy it more.
1982's NTF is amazing. Stevie is not on the stage and Christine playing making faces is incredible. Is that not the last tour she played the upright (bench) piano. Mick's faces, John trying to inhale Lindsey's smoke, Lindsey screaming and Christine pounding the hell out of those keys is an awesome performance. Did I say there was no Stevie.
My only thing is I did not want to hear it during The Dance. All of that magic was gone and it was just Lindsey, Mick, and John with none of the magic. Some songs are to be left on other tours and this was one of them. Gosh it is long and then he also did an epic long Go Insane by himself.
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