The Ledge

Go Back   The Ledge > Main Forums > Christine McVie
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar


Make the Ads Go Away! Click here.
View Poll Results: Favorite Christine Ballad
Show Me a Smile 2 4.00%
The Way I Feel 3 6.00%
Warm Ways 3 6.00%
Songbird 17 34.00%
Never Make Me Cry 3 6.00%
Wish You Were Here 10 20.00%
Mystyfied 3 6.00%
All Over Again 1 2.00%
Northern Star 6 12.00%
Calumny 2 4.00%
Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 02-18-2011, 01:27 PM
seekerj seekerj is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 591
Default

I also would have voted for "The Smile I Live For".

But I also wish I could have voted for "Wait And See".
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 02-20-2011, 04:58 AM
Dodfather's Avatar
Dodfather Dodfather is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ
Posts: 3,117
Default

What about Givin' It Back?
__________________
I'll follow you down until the sound of my voice will haunt you...you'll never get away from the sound of the woman that loves you...
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 02-20-2011, 01:31 PM
michelej1 michelej1 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: California
Posts: 26,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodfather View Post
What about Givin' It Back?
Oh, I like that one, but I guess I thought the chorus moved too swiftly for it to be a ballad.

Michele
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 09-28-2025, 11:33 AM
Villavic's Avatar
Villavic Villavic is online now
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Lima Peru
Posts: 6,358
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
Why is excluded, because A) I wasn't sure it fits the ballad criteria and B) even if it does it's not allowed becuase it would be a runaway winner, I want people to have to make some decisions.
I double disagree. First, I think Songbird would be the winner over Why, and after voting I see that's possible, it's the winner here.

Second, I voted for Songbird, but actually my favorite is not here. Over & Over.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 09-28-2025, 01:18 PM
WalkAThinLine. WalkAThinLine. is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 541
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Villavic View Post
I double disagree. First, I think Songbird would be the winner over Why, and after voting I see that's possible, it's the winner here.

Second, I voted for Songbird, but actually my favorite is not here. Over & Over.
"Over & Over" is a terrific song. "Why" could have provided more competition against "Songbird", which still probably would have won the poll, but perhaps by a slightly narrower margin.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 09-29-2025, 11:56 AM
jbrownsjr jbrownsjr is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,443
Default

ALAYF might be considered a ballad. It's a beautiful song.
__________________
I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!"
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 09-29-2025, 12:35 PM
HomerMcvie's Avatar
HomerMcvie HomerMcvie is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Posts: 17,285
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrownsjr View Post
ALAYF might be considered a ballad. It's a beautiful song.
That ain't no ballad.

I'm going with Never Make Me Cry.
__________________
Christine McVie- she radiated both purity and sass in equal measure, bringing light to the music of the 70s. RIP. - John Taylor(Duran Duran)
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 09-29-2025, 01:19 PM
FuzzyPlum FuzzyPlum is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,672
Default

Can of worms….what technically makes a ballad a ballad. I’m sure there’s some official definition I can’t be bothered to look up.
Of those on the original list….Wish You Were Here.
Notable mentions: Mystified, Show Me a Smile, Never Make Me Cry
__________________

'Where words fail, music speaks'
Mick Fleetwood
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 09-29-2025, 02:50 PM
Macfan4life's Avatar
Macfan4life Macfan4life is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Somewhere near Key Biscayne, nothing there so I came back
Posts: 7,675
Default

Chris used to introduce Over My Head as the ballad from the White album. As a kid that used to confuse me because I did not view it as a ballad. But I guess it is.
I agree with the consensus of this thread that its a fine line what is a ballad or not. Many of her songs are ballads or skirt the line of one.
__________________
My heart will rise up with the morning sun and the hurt I feel will simply melt away
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 09-29-2025, 04:01 PM
Villavic's Avatar
Villavic Villavic is online now
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Lima Peru
Posts: 6,358
Default

Ballad, according to Oxford English Dictionary

1.a slow sentimental or romantic song.

2. a poem or song narrating a story in short stanzas. Traditional ballads are typically of unknown authorship, having been passed on orally from one generation to the next.

I would say ALAYF is slow and sentimental. I don't see Over My Head enough slow.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 09-29-2025, 04:55 PM
Macfan4life's Avatar
Macfan4life Macfan4life is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Somewhere near Key Biscayne, nothing there so I came back
Posts: 7,675
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Villavic View Post
Ballad, according to Oxford English Dictionary

1.a slow sentimental or romantic song.

2. a poem or song narrating a story in short stanzas. Traditional ballads are typically of unknown authorship, having been passed on orally from one generation to the next.

I would say ALAYF is slow and sentimental. I don't see Over My Head enough slow.
Over My Head is slower than ALAYF. The singing is slower too. How could you say Over My Head is not slow and sentimental? That dream you had about Mick really messed up your senses

Over My Head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWia0TWAMM

As Long As You Follow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWia0TWAMM
__________________
My heart will rise up with the morning sun and the hurt I feel will simply melt away

Last edited by Macfan4life; 09-29-2025 at 04:59 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 09-29-2025, 05:37 PM
WalkAThinLine. WalkAThinLine. is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 541
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macfan4life View Post
Over My Head is slower than ALAYF. The singing is slower too. How could you say Over My Head is not slow and sentimental? That dream you had about Mick really messed up your senses

Over My Head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWia0TWAMM

As Long As You Follow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWia0TWAMM
I have "As Long As You Follow" at a BPM of 104 and Over My Head at a BPM of 99, which both can be classified as midtempo songs. Despite the slightly slower tempo, I view "Over My Head" as a slightly peppier song compared to "As Long As You Follow", which better reflects the production often found in saccharine ballads (lush guitars and synths, drums drenched in reverb).
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 09-29-2025, 07:10 PM
Villavic's Avatar
Villavic Villavic is online now
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Lima Peru
Posts: 6,358
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macfan4life View Post
How could you say Over My Head is not slow and sentimental? That dream you had about Mick really messed up your senses
Because I've read several times that OMH was about Lindsey (circus wheel, mood changing all the time, wasting my time...). Everything but romantic. And not enough slow, IMHO. Specially the Live album version.

And the dream was about Lindsey. Mick was just an intruder. And the responsible for the outcome of the dream is this guy.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg aab.jpg (98.1 KB, 1 views)
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 09-30-2025, 03:51 AM
Macfan4life's Avatar
Macfan4life Macfan4life is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Somewhere near Key Biscayne, nothing there so I came back
Posts: 7,675
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Villavic View Post
Because I've read several times that OMH was about Lindsey (circus wheel, mood changing all the time, wasting my time...). Everything but romantic. And not enough slow, IMHO. Specially the Live album version.

And the dream was about Lindsey. Mick was just an intruder. And the responsible for the outcome of the dream is this guy.
Those lines are classic Chris with revealing something not quite right in the relationship but in the end "it sure feels nice."
I do agree that pinpointing many of her songs as ballads is like herding cats. Many of them fall into that grey area. I recorded the 1987 Tango show and Chris introduced Over My Head as ballad which confused me too. But I think it fits into your dictionary definition.
But there are far better examples of ballads. But I dare not correct the writer of the song if she called it a "ballad off the white album."

P.S. Mick ruins everything
__________________
My heart will rise up with the morning sun and the hurt I feel will simply melt away
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


My 25 Years in Fleetwood Mac by Mick Fleetwood Hardcover Print 1992 CD included picture

My 25 Years in Fleetwood Mac by Mick Fleetwood Hardcover Print 1992 CD included

$8.50



Fleetwood Mac FULLY SIGNED On Q Newspaper JSA LOA McVie Mick Fleetwood Autograph picture

Fleetwood Mac FULLY SIGNED On Q Newspaper JSA LOA McVie Mick Fleetwood Autograph

$399.99



Signed John McVie Mick Fleetwood Mac Autographed Rolling Stone Magazine Auto PSA picture

Signed John McVie Mick Fleetwood Mac Autographed Rolling Stone Magazine Auto PSA

$499.99



MICK FLEETWOOD SIGNED WINE LABEL BECKETT BAS COA AUTOGRAPHED SLABBED MAC SINGER picture

MICK FLEETWOOD SIGNED WINE LABEL BECKETT BAS COA AUTOGRAPHED SLABBED MAC SINGER

$235.00



Fleetwood Mac ~ Mick Fleetwood / John McVie Signed 11x14 Photo Page with JSA COA picture

Fleetwood Mac ~ Mick Fleetwood / John McVie Signed 11x14 Photo Page with JSA COA

$299.94




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved