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Old 07-26-2025, 12:15 PM
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Google says BuckVie exceeded 60k copies sold.

I'd now like to lower my 100k guess to 50k.
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Old 07-26-2025, 12:43 PM
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The business model has changed. Artists make their living from concerts, not records. And for old artists, it's even worse. If they sold a lot, it would be a phenomenon. That's why they like to reissue deluxe editions, it's more sales attractive. Only true fans eagerly await and welcome new music, but it's a small market.

Rhino must conduct exhaustive market research to release albums that guarantee satisfactory revenue.

If Stevie release a new album, it won't sale that much. If she go on the road for supporting the album, probably a bit more than Lindsey's last album or SWS.

BN is a different case, but yes it could be a bit less than 100k. I hope I'm wrong. How much sold BuckVie? Wikipedia says 60K in UK, did it sell more in the US?

Unfortunately you are spot on. Not to mention many get their music from streaming not physical copies. Stevie will sell more of her new release if she gets it out now before her tour starts. People will pick it up at the show. As far as Buckingham Nicks if they get some of that PR around the September release date it may sell well. I still can’t believe how much press was given to this.

I still find it hilarious that so many stories about the possibility of a Buckingham Nicks reunion concert……….ah no, I don’t think so.
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Old 07-26-2025, 02:54 PM
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BN won't sell either.
It could chart on the Billboard 200 if they promote it closer to the release date.

Lindsey's last album didn't chart on the major cd/album chart in the US. Stevie's most recent three "singles" didn't chart on the Billboard Hot 100, and The Lighthouse got a ton of promotion.

But people will love to buy a "black and white" cute photo covered album just to have it.

I think it's a waste and I think that BTM should get the rerelease treatment that White Album - Tango got since Stevie, Chris, Mick, and John were in that lineup. But I guess Warner thinks the money is in Stevie and Lindsey together.
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Old 07-26-2025, 03:16 PM
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I actually think BN will have decent sales, because there are more young people interested in the story right now, for better or worse. It’s not going to be dependent on the grandparent generation for sales.
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Old 07-26-2025, 06:49 PM
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I just wonder what the latter-day Stevie fan would make of it. They've been told she was traumatized by the naked album cover, they've been told Lindsey is cancel-worthy, they've been told how much of a struggle that period was for her. Will they buy it even though it's Buckingham Nicks and he's in the foreground? Hopefully it comes with a trigger warning for them.
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Old 07-26-2025, 08:31 PM
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I just wonder what the latter-day Stevie fan would make of it. They've been told she was traumatized by the naked album cover, they've been told Lindsey is cancel-worthy, they've been told how much of a struggle that period was for her. Will they buy it even though it's Buckingham Nicks and he's in the foreground? Hopefully it comes with a trigger warning for them.
LOL I think they’ll be just fine, DownOnRodeo.
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Old 07-28-2025, 08:12 AM
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I just wonder what the latter-day Stevie fan would make of it. They've been told she was traumatized by the naked album cover, they've been told Lindsey is cancel-worthy, they've been told how much of a struggle that period was for her. Will they buy it even though it's Buckingham Nicks and he's in the foreground? Hopefully it comes with a trigger warning for them.
1/2 of this album is dangerous!
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What I never quite understood is how she often tells the story like she was at some low budget photographers house in west Hollywood who turned out to be a creep. It was actually Waddy's brother. We know Waddy knew both Stevie and Lindsey pretty well by that point. Waddy roomed with them both in their first house (if my memory is correct) and played on the album. I know, it doesn't mean strange things can't happen in the company of people you trust. I get that.

It's proof that as a photographer you really should come prepared to discuss your vision for the project/photo shoot and should already had those discussions with everyone involved well before the day of the shoot. There should be no surprises. If she had prior knowledge of how she was going to be photographed, why would she bother spending money she barely had on a really nice blouse? Even if it was never, ever intended to make anyone uncomfortable - pulling a bait and switch in the middle of a photo shoot that included the removal of clothing - there's a level of "ick" that comes with that no matter what. The better move would have been to propose a new direction and say "go home, think about it etc" otherwise, we'll move on to a different idea.
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Old 07-28-2025, 10:43 AM
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Every time I hear Stephanie or see the title reminds me of the MTV Fanatic episode where Stevie drew a blank to "What is your favorite Lindsey song?" The poor girl threw Stevie a lifeline "what about Stephanie" Then of course Stevie says Stephanie is her favorite Lindsey song and she tells the story its only called Stephanie because she suggested the name to Lindsey.
I am surprised Stevie did not say she wrote it too.
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Old 07-28-2025, 06:21 PM
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Eh, I guess.

It’s just that Rhino reissues are usually more robust packages.
I agree with you. There are loads of demos floating around out there. I have several. Would’ve been instructive, too, to hear BN demos of “Rhiannon” and “I’m So Afraid” if for no other reason than to illustrate how much these attractive, sparking-smiled folkies benefited greatly from the Brits.

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Old 07-28-2025, 06:29 PM
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What I never quite understood is how she often tells the story like she was at some low budget photographers house in west Hollywood who turned out to be a creep. It was actually Waddy's brother. We know Waddy knew both Stevie and Lindsey pretty well by that point. Waddy roomed with them both in their first house (if my memory is correct) and played on the album. I know, it doesn't mean strange things can't happen in the company of people you trust. I get that.

It's proof that as a photographer you really should come prepared to discuss your vision for the project/photo shoot and should already had those discussions with everyone involved well before the day of the shoot. There should be no surprises. If she had prior knowledge of how she was going to be photographed, why would she bother spending money she barely had on a really nice blouse? Even if it was never, ever intended to make anyone uncomfortable - pulling a bait and switch in the middle of a photo shoot that included the removal of clothing - there's a level of "ick" that comes with that no matter what. The better move would have been to propose a new direction and say "go home, think about it etc" otherwise, we'll move on to a different idea.
I totally agree. From what I’ve gathered over the years, Stevie wanted to push back on the idea but Lindsey got short-fused and impatient, so she acquiesced. If this is true, then it’s a very sad, upsetting story.

Still, it’s a very good photo—but, alas, an odd one for a duo’s debut. To the extent people still discuss it is a good sign, I guess. And it’s miles more tasteful than the Heroes cover!

Looking at the BN cover reminds me of the first Hall and Oates album on their second label, the 1975 self-titled one where they are wearing makeup. They had a high-end Italian photographer telling them they’d be immortalized with that cover. They were made notorious. But it, too, is a great photo.
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I totally agree. From what I’ve gathered over the years, Stevie wanted to push back on the idea but Lindsey got short-fused and impatient, so she acquiesced. If this is true, then it’s a very sad, upsetting story.

Still, it’s a very good photo—but, alas, an odd one for a duo’s debut. To the extent people still discuss it is a good sign, I guess. And it’s miles more tasteful than the Heroes cover!

Looking at the BN cover reminds me of the first Hall and Oates album on their second label, the 1975 self-titled one where they are wearing makeup. They had a high-end Italian photographer telling them they’d be immortalized with that cover. They were made notorious. But it, too, is a great photo.
Stevie actually said in an interview once that the Hall and Oates cover reminded her of the BN cover and she thought Hall was a female. Lol
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Old 07-28-2025, 06:55 PM
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Stevie actually said in an interview once that the Hall and Oates cover reminded her of the BN cover and she thought Hall was a female. Lol
I've said it for almost a quarter of a century here, but I'd love to know her actual I.Q.
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Old 07-28-2025, 07:34 PM
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Stevie actually said in an interview once that the Hall and Oates cover reminded her of the BN cover and she thought Hall was a female. Lol
Ok—THAT is hilarious. She made the same analogy as I. Am I a sister of the moon, or an Excalibur?
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