stadium show with Billy Joel

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Straightback

They still gave Billy a slightly bigger and fatter font over Stevie.

Yes, but the width of the complete name "BILLY JOEL" is the same size of the complete name "STEVIE NICKS". I guess that's why the fonts are different, to appear equal at the end.

But some lawyers were probably dissatisfied because the final perception of size didn't seem the same to them, anyway. Yes, I would have liked to see that.

[David]

Originally Posted by Villavic

She played at the Oakland Coliseum in 1981, part of her White Winged Dove Tour.

That has always confused people across the country, including compilers of tour dates and venues.

The Oakland Coliseum complex has a big sports stadium that seats about 60,000 fans (Oakland Coliseum) and an adjacent indoor arena that seats about 13,000 (Oakland Coliseum Arena).

Stevie played the indoor arena in 1981, where Fleetwood Mac played in 1982, Stevie played again in 1983, and Fleetwood played in December 1990 with Lindsey on a few songs. The coliseum (a stadium) is where Fleetwood played on big bills for Day on the Green festivals produced by Bill Graham in the Seventies.

They should never have named the indoor venue the Coliseum Arena. That’s the confusion.

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[Villavic]

Originally Posted by David

The Oakland Coliseum complex has a big sports stadium that seats about 60,000 fans (Oakland Coliseum) and an adjacent indoor arena that seats about 13,000 (Oakland Coliseum Arena).

Interesting. It's a typical trick.; that reminds me I went to see Roger Waters in 2007, here in Lima. It was announced "at Monumental Stadium" but actually it was at the Esplanade of Monumental, an outdoor parking area of the stadium complex. Then in 2018 he came back at that concert actually was at the stadium. Both great shows, although I liked the first one better .

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Interesting. It's a typical trick.; that reminds me I went to see Roger Waters in 2007, here in Lima. It was announced "at Monumental Stadium" but actually it was at the Esplanade of Monumental, an outdoor parking area of the stadium complex. Then in 2018 he came back at that concert actually was at the stadium. Both great shows, although I liked the first one better .

That sound similar to what they do in Portlant (i.e., the Modas Center vs. The Sky Arena at the Moda Center, which is just part of the regular venue, but sectioned off). They're always explicit about it though.

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I hate to break it to you but Stevie was the opening act. Billy was the main artist draw. To answer your question, YES it would happen every time the main artists cancels the opening act does not go on as planned.
Its true she was being paid more than an opening act would. But Billy can fill the seats more than she can. If Stevie cancelled a gig do you think Vanessa Carlton would perform alone as the opening act? People would be upset and want their money back. Its not a 50/50 show.

I think The Pretenders playing the 24KG shows would be a much better analogy for these concerts.

People could really have came to those shows to see the pretenders and stick around for Stevie as a bonus to who they really wanted to see. Kind of like how I would feel about the Billy Joel shows.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

I think The Pretenders playing the 24KG shows would be a much better analogy for these concerts.

People could really have came to those shows to see the pretenders and stick around for Stevie as a bonus to who they really wanted to see. Kind of like how I would feel about the Billy Joel shows.

Pretenders played a great long set. I feel like it was 75 minutes. Stevie was very generous in giving them a lot of time. They were even on the ticket stubs!

[Villavic]

Just for fun, I checked the 1995 setlist when the band played with Reo Speedwagon and Pat Benatar. Setlist.fm is not always 100% accurate, but gives an idea. Reo played 14 songs, the Mac 17 songs. Pat Benatar list shows 5 songs but it mentions it's not a complete list.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Pretenders played a great long set. I feel like it was 75 minutes. Stevie was very generous in giving them a lot of time. They were even on the ticket stubs!

Pretenders rocked so much harder than Stevie and the gang; it was almost embarrassing, the difference between them.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Pretenders rocked so much harder than Stevie and the gang; it was almost embarrassing, the difference between them.

And that was a very different poster than the Billy-Stevie.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by Villavic

And that was a very different poster than the Billy-Stevie.

And the Rod Tour said "Rod Stewart and Stevie Nicks"

[Macfan4life]

Notice the words besides the font on those tour ads. Stevie Nicks "with" the Pretenders informs everyone The Pretenders are an opening act. Rod Stewert "and" Stevie Nicks is more subtle but still implies Stevie is the secondary or opening act. It gets even more subtle with Billy Joel because there is no "with" or "and." The font and placing of Stevie's name informs you she is the secondary act.
I know its crazy but managers fight over this stuff.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Notice the words besides the font on those tour ads. Stevie Nicks "with" the Pretenders informs everyone The Pretenders are an opening act. Rod Stewert "and" Stevie Nicks is more subtle but still implies Stevie is the secondary or opening act. It gets even more subtle with Billy Joel because there is no "with" or "and." The font and placing of Stevie's name informs you she is the secondary act.
I know its crazy but managers fight over this stuff.

Stevie undoubtedly opened for Rod but I found the advertising for the Rod tour more respectful than the Billy shows. To me the AND means a double-bill (even though it wasn't) also you had both of their pictures on the poster. "With" to me defines it as an opening act. But regardless Stevie opened for Rod and Billy. Just as Rod opened for Billy last year and Sting opened for Billy this year and last year.

Stevie's set before Rod and Billy seems to be the same length that The Pretenders' set was on the 24KG Tour!