CHURCH OF stevie

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I think the interviewer baited her. He was carrot carrot carrot, soft stick... etc.

Agree w/ BWboy, he got a lot out of her. It was painful at times to read her responses.

LOL a lot of carrot sticks, but it worked!

Thank you for posting that interview, jbrownsjr- I know it probably took you a while so that was really nice of you. As I kept reading, I was amazed at how long the interview was. I was surprised Stevie had never been told by anyone in her team about Stereophonic- kind of makes me think her team isn’t deliberately shielding her, but maybe they’re just as isolated as she is from real world stuff. Kind of an interesting and disturbing thought.

[jbrownsjr]

They should shield her from answering questions.

[Steviegirl]

Good Lord. So nasty. Smh.
"If you are gracious, you have won the game." Uh...you lost.
YOU were going to come and yowl for three hours for someone on her deathbed? Someone who
A. Was a FEMALE member of one of the most legendary bands in rock and roll history and
B. Demanded that her family tell your dumb ass to stay the hell away from her?
Does she hear herself? GROSS.

[Frankenstein]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

So she did the collaboration with Leanne Rimes before MusiCares and then she wanted to record it AGAIN with Lindsey?

After holding out on a FM album for 15 years, holding out on BuckVie etc. she wanted to do THIS with Lindsey??? Make it make sense.

[anusha]

The thing is -- for people who aren't used to Stevie's schtick or for her devoted fans, they'll take her word as the truth. There are some parts that are true -- she's probably smart to stay off of social media, and she is an icon -- she created an image and wrote those songs. And she's got the right to wear a mask if she wants to -- she's right that getting sick and cancelling shows for any reason would hurt the people who work for her.

But for anyone who's been paying attention to her media appearances for a while, it's kind of par for the course. She constantly centers herself in situations where she should not. Whether it's her posts about RBG or her songs about current political issues, she has no sense of perspective or propriety.

I highly doubt that Chris considered Stevie her best friend. They had a period of time where they were close and experienced some intense moments, but that was 50 years ago. Her regrets about not seeing Chris are all about what Stevie wanted Chris' final moments to be rather than what Chris or her family wanted. I cringe at the thought of her showing up on someone's deathbed to sing Touched By An Angel -- at least do Dreams!

But seriously, I also have serious doubts about her and John being so close.

She is not a peacemaker in this band by any stretch of the imagination. She and Lindsey are 100% of the conflict in the band and have been since at least the late 80s. Chris and John and Mick weren't screaming at each other or at Stevie and Lindsey -- I'm sure Chris and John both found the drama from Stevie and Lindsey to be deeply unpleasant but tolerated it for the sake of touring, while Mick tried to manage it long enough to keep the band recording and touring.

It probably isn't a coincidence that she is using the term musical soulmate -- Lindsey used it to describe Chris when he posted his condolences message on his social media after Chris died. Stevie used to use that line for Lindsey to explain his role in her life. Now she uses it for Chris-- they are almost the opposite of musical soulmates -- their approaches to songwriting and their styles are literally opposites of each other.

Classless to use Chris' memory to promote herself and get another dig at Lindsey, but she is who she is.

But at least this interview makes me glad that the band is never coming back.

[Street_Dreamer]

The way she is propped up by braindead social media white knights is disgusting. Regardless of whatever arguments or disagreements they've had over the years, it's a two way street. I can't think of a time where Lindsey has been as cut throat about Stevie in the media as she has. It disgusts me that her point of view is the only one we ever get and because of it, she gets propped up as a holy beacon of righteousness.

She disgusts me.

[DownOnRodeo]

[Nicks pauses and wraps her leg around her head to demonstrate.]

Was that part for real??

"Lady, I don't need to see."

Originally Posted by Nathan

And her demo of The Chain, that she claims she "found." Does that mean on YouTube, like she "found Secret Love? Or did she actually *find something new?*

I'd guarantee the demo is just the one from YouTube.

[Macfan4life]

I can't get over the arrogance of Stevie towards Chris. Chris did not have to ask Stevie's permission to come back but as a good Brit she was full of manners and made that call. Instead of just welcoming her back with open arms, her comments to Chris are almost her looking down on her.
"oh first thing you better do is hire a trainer. We play much harder now like AC DC"
While I will agree this was not to deter Chris from rejoining but its coming from a place of superiority i.e. Chris cant rock like Stevie and clearly is not in the shape as Stevie. Chris actually plays an instrument, Stevie does not. To suggest to a musician they cant rock coming from someone that plays no instrument is quite insulting IMHO.
Chris publicly took issue with the trainer remark. Chris toured when it was old, cheap, hotels for many years night after night. When Stevie joined they rocketed to first class hotels and private jets. To talk this way to a rock icon is very arrogant. I know this was not Stevie's intent. But OMG can you imagine what Chris really thought?
Earth to Stevie.....would you say this to Bob Dylan?

[Villavic]

I also have doubts about her and John being so close. But I have seen some Stevie's affectionate gestures toward John. I always felt they enjoyed friendship very cool, but are not best friends.

Like this poster I liked very mucho how she is near John.



Or when she made this gesture at The (Dance) Chain, I always thought she was telling John "we can't break the chain".

And I found this (Mick's book) Rumours "Thousand-Dollar Cookie Session" episode so fun: We spent the night in such a bent condition that not a note was played and the engineers went home. John and Stevie spent hours huddled in a corner, giggling like mad over a copy of Playboy.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by Nathan

She said the brought the Rimes song to "play" for him...not to perform it...

Not sure where people are getting that she intended it to be performed except their imaginations.

That might be my fault, from my earlier post. I guess I don't understand why you would choose an awards show as an opportunity to tell Lindsey about a song you wanted to "do" together. Logically, I assumed it meant she wanted to perform it that night, otherwise why not just give the guy a call? Then again, who am I kidding. We're talking about Stevie Nicks. Not to mention, she gave him and the entire band the middle finger for the prior 3 years as they worked on BuckVie and then she approaches him to do a cover of some duet she did? What a weird, weird flex.

I'm coming to the conclusion that there really wasn't any big "incident" that nobody wants to bring up. Lindsey was/is literally *the only* person in her orbit willing to even remotely challenge her on anything. There were clearly multiple things they did not necessarily agree on that night and Stevie went into a Chernobyl meltdown. One that's been brewing since Christine returned to the band.

The arrogance towards Christine doesn't surprise me in the least. She put together a giant photo montage and manufactured a story about Christine being her best, closest friend in the whole world. Now it's moved onto "musical soulmate". Not only did she do that, but then she goes out and spews the bullsh*t to 15,000 fans each night, for the better part of two years. Just as she did with Tom's death, she made sure to manufacture a big dramatic Stevie moment to incorporate into her show. There are a million different ways she could have done a tribute to either of them without making it about her, but she definitely made sure it was all about her.

All the more reason why she felt it was okay to tell the world she was angry that she wasn't allowed to visit Christine and do what she wanted to do.

One more thing: the entire band basically started to mock her during her 15 minute speech at music cares - and she deserved it. That was a night to honor the entire band and she made sure she spoke the longest - and made no bones about reveling in it.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by Nathan

And said right at the top of that speech that she didn't bother to prepare anything.

Like, I'm sorry, but didn't you 'study Speech Communication at San Jose State for 3 and a half years?' And you didn't bother to prepare anything? She did deserve the L on that one, and what the band did behind her (which didn't come across making to me; just keeping it light) was appropriate, as you said.

ITA, LB is 'always able to reach her.' Frankly, when I hear the two of them speak in interviews, they sound so much alike, that I think a good deal of her whole 'thing' (cadence, intonation, ideas, etc.) came from him in those early days of 1965-1971. He taught her -- and I don't doubt, came to be possessive -- so he knows the real her in ways that anyone post-1973 never will.

She prepared nothing and then spoke more about Tom Petty than her bandmates standing right behind her.

I still find it infuriating that it was Mick Fleetwood that made the first move. He turned to say something to Christine, then Christine started to point to her watch. Lindsey was one of the LAST people on that stage to do anything but stand in silence, but she pinned it all on Lindsey.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

She prepared nothing and then spoke more about Tom Petty than her bandmates standing right behind her.

I still find it hilarious that it was Mick Fleetwood that made the first move. He turned to say something to Christine, then Christine started to point to her watch. Lindsey was one of the LAST people on that stage to do anything but stand in silence.

I deleted my post b/c I was wrong. The Musicares speech is not the one where she said she didn't prepare -- at least not in this clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_Wonk4CNM

Yes, I saw that just now too, and thought, why not fire Mick or Christine? Checking her WATCH?? Lol, it was actually pretty funny. LB trying to dance w/ John? Haha

Man, that thing she does where she inserts some factoid and pauses for applause ("it was actually Sly Stone's studio")...just CRINGE.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by Nathan

I deleted my post b/c I was wrong. The Musicares speech is not the one where she said she didn't prepare -- at least not in this clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_Wonk4CNM

Yes, I saw that just now too, and thought, why not fire Mick or Christine? Checking her WATCH?? Lol, it was actually pretty funny. LB trying to dance w/ John? Haha

Man, that thing she does where she inserts some factoid and pauses for applause ("it was actually Sly Stone's studio")...just CRINGE.

It doesn't matter because even when she does prepare something, she usually tosses it aside and mentions to the crowd she's going to ramble instead. It's part of charming, endearing Stevie schtick.

Mock was the wrong word - After a 150 nights of sitting through her 15 minute Gypsy story time, they were trying to keep it light despite some frayed patience.

The kicker is she knew her excessive talking was something acknowledged by the entire band - it was among the first things she mentioned when she got up to the podium. She literally rubbed their noses in it like a child.

[Nathan]

Her old style of public speaking was much better. She knew when to cut it off. Super humble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A2HAd4NzXY

[BigAl84]

Did anyone else find it humorous that she used her parents as a benchmark for how long she thinks she'll live.

Clue phone for Stevie - your parents made it to their early 80s and they didn't abuse drugs for 15 years.