Mick Fleetwood wants the LB/SN rift to heal

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by jmn3

Stevie, for better or worse, is taking a clue from how the Rolling Stones have been approaching this late stage of their careers. For the last 12 years the Stones have done some type of annual short tour, with the exception of 2020. Usually a 12-15ish show tour over a 2-3 month period. From my view it keeps the wheels turning (for the entire band/operation). If it’s not medical related, then I have to wonder if LB ever cares to take the stage or tour again at this point. These are horrible years for someone his age to simply go into hiding.

At least The Stones did two new songs in 2012, Blue & Lonesome, Living in a Ghosttown, and now Hackney Diamonds. I saw them in LA and they did four new songs! Stevie's setlist is garbage.

I don't know what Lindsey is doing. It's three years since he released his last album and almost two years since his last full concert. And he said at that time he was going to wrap up an album. I almost think Lindsey's done with touring and recording.

[BLY]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

At least The Stones did two new songs in 2012, Blue & Lonesome, Living in a Ghosttown, and now Hackney Diamonds. I saw them in LA and they did four new songs! Stevie's setlist is garbage.

I don't know what Lindsey is doing. It's three years since he released his last album and almost two years since his last full concert. And he said at that time he was going to wrap up an album. I almost think Lindsey's done with touring and recording.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. I’m just so happy we got what we got. I never thought we would have got all the music from him and from the band that we did when I think about it.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

At least The Stones did two new songs in 2012, Blue & Lonesome, Living in a Ghosttown, and now Hackney Diamonds. I saw them in LA and they did four new songs! Stevie's setlist is garbage.

I think RS include their latest song, Angry, in this year setlist.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I think Lindsey is obsessed with being accepted back into the fold. He's already been publicly humiliated, but needs to show the he's still "the man"(whether he's now a eunuch or not).

Tusk Lindsey would kick this Lindsey to the curb. It's pathetic.

Gotta disagree with this logic; someone who hasn’t grown personally in 45 years would be pathetic, not Lindsey for exhibiting emotional maturity by showing forgiveness in a fairly unforgivable situation. I suspect after being fired from FM, nearly dying, Christine dying, then nearly losing his partner of 30 years Lindsey simply realizes time is precious and he has to lay down the burden of anger and grudges and make the rest of his time count. I would try to heal as many wounds as possible if I were in his shoes, too. FM has dominated his entire adult life, nearly 50 years of it. Why would he not try to write a happy ending for it?

[BLY]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Gotta disagree with this logic; someone who hasn’t grown personally in 45 years would be pathetic, not Lindsey for exhibiting emotional maturity by showing forgiveness in a fairly unforgivable situation. I suspect after being fired from FM, nearly dying, Christine dying, then nearly losing his partner of 30 years Lindsey simply realizes time is precious and he has to lay down the burden of anger and grudges and make the rest of his time count. I would try to heal as many wounds as possible if I were in his shoes, too. FM has dominated his entire adult life, nearly 50 years of it. Why would he not try to write a happy ending for it?

I agree, I think he knows the Fleetwood Mac chapter has sailed. Either put out another album featuring Mick on it or not. I’m sure Lindsey has at least another gem to release.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I don't think Stevie would ever make overtures towards Lindsey. The only way it would happen is if Mick's persuasion worked and then she still would not do it. Mick would be the one pulling the strings. Perhaps he convinces her that he's almost broke again and convinces her to partake in a goodbye swansong for the band. The only reason I think it will happen is because of Lindsey. I cant really understand it but Lindsey has always said he would go back and has had several olive branches towards Mick. I do believe Stevie has guilt of her actions from 2018. I dont think she wants a Yoko Ono legacy with the band. She forgave Mick and came back to the Mac after their big fight in 1991. I think there will some sort of reunion that may not include John. It may not be a tour but I think Stevie and Lindsey will be on stage together again. Why? Because the history of this band tells me so.

I agree with much of this except one sentiment; Stevie unequivocally does not feel regret for firing Lindsey, that’s just not how a person who has Narcissistic Personality Disorder’s brain works. She felt threatened/wronged/unheard/whatever and simply lashed out in reciprocity, which is what narcissists do. She may however feel regret, which is quite different from guilt. She possibly regrets that she wasn’t totally able to spin the narrative of Lindsey’s firing to the press/fans; she possibly regrets that she couldn’t have worked the situation to further her advantage… but she ultimately doesn’t care about anyone except herself. It’s not that she’s cruel, it’s just not how the narcissistic brain is wired. They view the entire world as either for or against them, and annihilate anything that they view as even remotely altering their narrative, much less threatening it.

Now, would Stevie reconvene with Lindsey? If she were convinced that it would be beneficial to her interests and that she would have total control, it’s certainly possible. She’s not going to be the one to initiate it, though.

[BrownEyedGirl26]

Originally Posted by jmn3

I’m sure nothings off the table but to paraphrase Lindsey from the 1997 tour - time limits them at this point. They’re getting to be too old and Lindsey for whatever reason is taking way too much time off. At their age, they really need to keep the juices flowing if they want to continue to play live shows well into their 70’s and 80’s. Stevie, for better or worse, is taking a clue from how the Rolling Stones have been approaching this late stage of their careers. For the last 12 years the Stones have done some type of annual short tour, with the exception of 2020. Usually a 12-15ish show tour over a 2-3 month period. From my view it keeps the wheels turning (for the entire band/operation). If it’s not medical related, then I have to wonder if LB ever cares to take the stage or tour again at this point. These are horrible years for someone his age to simply go into hiding.

Hi jmm3,
I agree that they are all getting older with all the ailments that advanced age brings, and this is the perfect time for their story to fully mature musically, or just how Lindsey likes to talk about circles, for the circle to become complete, even for, just, one last show and their, true long suffering, fans. Heaven knows, we've waited long enough! Just my 2 cents worth, of course!

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I think RS include their latest song, Angry, in this year setlist.

Angry is one of their latest songs. But I think their latest single is Mess It Up. At my show, they played four songs off their new album: Angry, Mess It Up, Tell Me Straight, and Sweet Sounds of Heaven (featuring Lady Gaga but not at the concert).

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl26

Hi jmm3,
I agree that they are all getting older with all the ailments that advanced age brings, and this is the perfect time for their story to fully mature musically, or just how Lindsey likes to talk about circles, for the circle to become complete, even for, just, one last show and their, true long suffering, fans. Heaven knows, we've waited long enough! Just my 2 cents worth, of course!

Christine McVie is dead. Fleetwood Mac is over.

There maybe could have been another chapter if she hadn’t come back, but she did, we’re all better for it, but she’s gone now, and there’s no credible way to go back, especially considering their ages.

Christine, Julie, and even Mayall are gone, now. I don’t see John caring, anymore. He’s done. I’d love to be wrong, but I’d much rather have Buckingham Nicks featuring Mick Fleetwood/Buckingham, Nicks, & Fleetwood/Lindsey Buckingham w/ Mick Fleetwood/Stevie Nicks w/ Mick Fleetwood/Mick Fleetwood’s Mac Attack or whatever than something called Fleetwood Mac. That ship has sailed.

[BrownEyedGirl26]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Christine McVie is dead. Fleetwood Mac is over.

There maybe could have been another chapter if she hadn’t come back, but she did, we’re all better for it, but she’s gone now, and there’s no credible way to go back, especially considering their ages.

Christine, Julie, and even Mayall are gone, now. I don’t see John caring, anymore. He’s done. I’d love to be wrong, but I’d much rather have Buckingham Nicks featuring Mick Fleetwood/Buckingham, Nicks, & Fleetwood/Lindsey Buckingham w/ Mick Fleetwood/Stevie Nicks w/ Mick Fleetwood/Mick Fleetwood’s Mac Attack or whatever than something called Fleetwood Mac. That ship has sailed.

Hi Steve,
I agree, that it won't be Fleetwood Mac any longer because, unfortunately, Christine has gone. May she rest in peace forever, so I meant it would be nice for "whatever" incarnation of the remaining members, to 'Then Play On' again before it's definitely too late......PLEASE!

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl26

Hi Steve,
I agree, that it won't be Fleetwood Mac any longer because, unfortunately, Christine has gone. May she rest in peace forever, so I meant it would be nice for "whatever" incarnation of the remaining members, to 'Then Play On' again before it's definitely too late......PLEASE!

If there are no McVies left, there's NO POINT. It's over.

Why can't people accept that?

[Macfan4life]

Sheryl Crow announced that she has a cousin that plays bass.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Sheryl Crow announced that she has a cousin that plays bass.

People having breakfast with me now are asking why did I laugh so much.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

If there are no McVies left, there's NO POINT. It's over.

Why can't people accept that?

John is also right under the age of 80. I personally think Mick wants to talk with John to say playing as Fleetwood Mac as they did from January 2001-March 2014, would be healthy for both of them.

I still wish there was a photo available of John attending Stevie’s Hollywood Bowl concert October 3, 2022. Stevie said he was in attendance that night.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

John is also right under the age of 80. I personally think Mick wants to talk with John to say playing as Fleetwood Mac as they did from January 2001-March 2014, would be healthy for both of them.

I still wish there was a photo available of John attending Stevie’s Hollywood Bowl concert October 3, 2022. Stevie said he was in attendance that night.

I SERIOUSLY doubt that John WANTS to do it. I think he's already stuck a fork in it.

Mick's just a money whore, and an attention whore.