The Ledge

Go Back   The Ledge > Main Forums > Rumours
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar


Make the Ads Go Away! Click here.
View Poll Results: Which is the better album?
Mirage 75 49.34%
Tango In The Night 77 50.66%
Voters: 152. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #181  
Old 07-25-2024, 07:02 PM
aleuzzi's Avatar
aleuzzi aleuzzi is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 6,403
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott View Post
Yes, that's word I was looking for re Mirage, safe. I so wish Smile at You had replaced WTTRS on Tango which to me is its nadir. Lindsey gave some Tango-ish flourishes to it on SYW. I could imagine a suitable version of it working as a bitter riposte to Family Man before Isn't it Midnight kicks in. A missed opportunity.
I also wished they could have managed Planets of the Universe. The spaciness of Tango’s production would have really suited that song.

Sadly, I don’t think Stevie’s voice was in good enough shape at that time. She pulled it together for the tour, but the demos on the Deluxe show she was in really bad shape.
Reply With Quote
  #182  
Old 07-25-2024, 09:43 PM
Mr Scarrott Mr Scarrott is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 671
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott View Post
So Tango, then. Mirage is a pleasant rag-bag of ideas but it was no attempted equivalent to Abbey Road as Tusk was to the White Album and Rumours was to Sergeant Pepper. Maybe the Mac had to wait another album to make that comparison make some sort of sense.
I feel I should in all fairness qualify my opinion of Mirage to "a pleasant rag-bag of ideas with one stand-out masterpiece of a song"
__________________
There's no use in crying, it's all over
Reply With Quote
  #183  
Old 07-26-2024, 10:27 AM
jbrownsjr jbrownsjr is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,445
Default

Wow, Tango pulled ahead by 2 votes.
__________________
I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!"
Reply With Quote
  #184  
Old 07-26-2024, 10:42 AM
HomerMcvie's Avatar
HomerMcvie HomerMcvie is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Posts: 17,298
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrownsjr View Post
Wow, Tango pulled ahead by 2 votes.
Yeah, and Stevie is the lead singer of FM.
__________________
Christine McVie- she radiated both purity and sass in equal measure, bringing light to the music of the 70s. RIP. - John Taylor(Duran Duran)
Reply With Quote
  #185  
Old 07-26-2024, 02:09 PM
jbrownsjr jbrownsjr is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HomerMcvie View Post
Yeah, and Stevie is the lead singer of FM.
My poll says 76-74 Tango by 2. Does yours read differently? (Being serious for once)
__________________
I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!"
Reply With Quote
  #186  
Old 07-26-2024, 02:16 PM
HomerMcvie's Avatar
HomerMcvie HomerMcvie is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Posts: 17,298
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrownsjr View Post
My poll says 76-74 Tango by 2. Does yours read differently? (Being serious for once)
No, I just don't gaf.
__________________
Christine McVie- she radiated both purity and sass in equal measure, bringing light to the music of the 70s. RIP. - John Taylor(Duran Duran)
Reply With Quote
  #187  
Old 07-26-2024, 02:20 PM
jbrownsjr jbrownsjr is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HomerMcvie View Post
No, I just don't gaf.
You have a funny way of showing that...
__________________
I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!"
Reply With Quote
  #188  
Old 07-26-2024, 02:25 PM
HomerMcvie's Avatar
HomerMcvie HomerMcvie is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Posts: 17,298
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrownsjr View Post
You have a funny way of showing that...
Mirage came out at the height of my fandom, and Tango is plastique. Polls mean nothing to me.

NEXTTTT!!!!
__________________
Christine McVie- she radiated both purity and sass in equal measure, bringing light to the music of the 70s. RIP. - John Taylor(Duran Duran)
Reply With Quote
  #189  
Old 07-27-2024, 05:09 AM
Macfan4life's Avatar
Macfan4life Macfan4life is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Somewhere near Key Biscayne, nothing there so I came back
Posts: 7,683
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum View Post
Yes, it was much more successful in Europe, charting very highly in many countries. It reached number 1 in the UK three times and was one of the highest selling albums of the 1980’s. Possibly the highest selling of 1987, but I didn’t check.
Maybe it’s just more ‘European’ sounding (whatever that means)
I was surprised to know that Mirage went to #5 in the UK. I suppose Oh Dianne dragged it there Mirage still cracked many European top 10 charts.
I was reading some stuff Ken wrote about recording Mirage. Supposedly Stevie and Lindsey hated the castle recording studio even though they had a private chef that could cook them anything. They complained of not having a TV and they still complained about the food.
Even though the members did not appreciate the album or enjoy the experience so much (clearly they were all getting on each other's nerves with a short tour, not appearing in the Hold Me video together, etc.) the recording of Mirage was an epic time. I love the story of Mick and Stevie riding horses in the French countryside I think being cooped up in the castle also led to their division. If they had recorded in LA, they could have all driven home at the end of the day.
Stevie brought That's Alright, Smile at You and If You Were My Love. Lindsey did not think Smile At You belonged on the album and told Stevie to replace it. Stevie agreed that it was too angry and brought replacements.
The Mirage era was a fun time. It was in the limelight of Bella Donna. It was popular on the new MTV. The short tour ended and the band was never the same. I know the band did not enjoy that time so much but I love it. Mirage is an album they had to make. I dont think they enjoyed much of it. But they still came out with some great songs. Chris just broke up with Dennis and had some incredible love songs. But both Mirage and Tango have many similar attributes. The band was under pressure to have commercial success after the blow back from Tusk which is why we got safe poppy records.
One of the biggest reasons I like Mirage is because of Christine's playing. Its also the first Mac album that she is on the cover, right? On Tango her playing almost disappears and she takes a back seat to Lindsey's computer keyboards. On Mirage she is playing all the keys, piano, synthesizer, etc. I love that. One reason I like BTM is because we hear Chris playing keyboards again.
Let's not forget Mirage has one of the biggest songs of 1982.
__________________
My heart will rise up with the morning sun and the hurt I feel will simply melt away

Last edited by Macfan4life; 07-27-2024 at 09:46 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #190  
Old 07-29-2024, 09:59 AM
jbrownsjr jbrownsjr is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HomerMcvie View Post
Mirage came out at the height of my fandom, and Tango is plastique. Polls mean nothing to me.

NEXTTTT!!!!
My comment still stands. ^^ This only supports it.
__________________
I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!"
Reply With Quote
  #191  
Old 07-29-2024, 03:30 PM
aleuzzi's Avatar
aleuzzi aleuzzi is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 6,403
Default

I’m glad we have both of those albums and sad as hell we never got another studio album from that lineup.
Reply With Quote
  #192  
Old 07-29-2024, 04:30 PM
jbrownsjr jbrownsjr is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by aleuzzi View Post
I’m glad we have both of those albums and sad as hell we never got another studio album from that lineup.
certain place, certain time... said Sandy Stewart.
__________________
I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!"
Reply With Quote
  #193  
Old 07-29-2024, 04:44 PM
HomerMcvie's Avatar
HomerMcvie HomerMcvie is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Posts: 17,298
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrownsjr View Post
My comment still stands. ^^ This only supports it.
From Miss Sandy C.

Were you on any of the FM offshoot boards circa 2007? Where my literal board name was Sandy. C...

Good times.
__________________
Christine McVie- she radiated both purity and sass in equal measure, bringing light to the music of the 70s. RIP. - John Taylor(Duran Duran)
Reply With Quote
  #194  
Old 07-30-2024, 07:13 AM
Wdm6789 Wdm6789 is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,037
Default

Love both albums, but I’m going to have to go with Tango. Lindsey and Christine really did an excellent job with this album. I wish Stevie’s contributions to Tango were more on par with her contributions to the previous four album, but Seven Wonders and Welcome to the Room Sara are good enough.

Mirage, I really like every song by all three songwriters, but Tango is a little more my style. Tango has a great 80s glamour rock/pop/new wave sound but it’s also distinctively Fleetwood Mac. Mirage was a great transitional album from the 70s to the 80s, but it is a little more tame and soft. Tango is sharper and harder.

But Hold Me and Gypsy are two of my favorite songs and Gypsy is one of the most beautiful songs ever.
Reply With Quote
  #195  
Old 07-30-2024, 08:25 AM
jbrownsjr jbrownsjr is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,445
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HomerMcvie View Post
From Miss Sandy C.

Were you on any of the FM offshoot boards circa 2007? Where my literal board name was Sandy. C...

Good times.
I was, but don't remember that. Old brain.
__________________
I would tell Christine Perfect, "You're Christine f***ing McVie, and don't you forget it!"
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Peter Green - In The Skies - Expanded Edition [New CD] Bonus Tracks, Expanded Ve picture

Peter Green - In The Skies - Expanded Edition [New CD] Bonus Tracks, Expanded Ve

$17.10



Peter Greene, The End Of The Game, Japan Cd picture

Peter Greene, The End Of The Game, Japan Cd

$25.00



GREEN PETER GREEN Short Slevee Black T-Shirt picture

GREEN PETER GREEN Short Slevee Black T-Shirt

$16.99



The Best of Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac picture

The Best of Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac

$12.33



CD Peter Green Blue Guitar Castle Communications 1991 Rock Blues picture

CD Peter Green Blue Guitar Castle Communications 1991 Rock Blues

$24.99




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved