25+ years after The Dance — Was it worth it?

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

(have ya'll seen the HD vids from Warners on .

Yes but they are just few songs. I don't understand why they don't release more The Dance songs on YT in HD.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Yes but they are just few songs. I don't understand why they don't release more The Dance songs on YT in HD.

Because they've always sucked at business. They even hired that idiot drummer as their manager once!

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Because they've always sucked at business. They even hired that idiot drummer as their manager once!

The alternative would have been exponentially worse. They recorded Fleetwood Mac, Rumours, and Tusk under Mick’s tutelage. I doubt the last two could have been made if Stevie and Irving had been pulling the strings. Fleetwood Mac really hasn’t had a masterpiece since Tusk.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

The alternative would have been exponentially worse. They recorded Fleetwood Mac, Rumours, and Tusk under Mick’s tutelage. I doubt the last two could have been made if Stevie and Irving had been pulling the strings. Fleetwood Mac really hasn’t had a masterpiece since Tusk.

Their egos shouldn't have been out of control until post Rumours, so I disagree.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

The alternative would have been exponentially worse. They recorded Fleetwood Mac, Rumours, and Tusk under Mick’s tutelage. I doubt the last two could have been made if Stevie and Irving had been pulling the strings. Fleetwood Mac really hasn’t had a masterpiece since Tusk.

Never Irving of course! But if they had had a manager with a Brian Epstein's conflict management skills, the story would have been different. Mick may have had an approach to the band's whims, but his accounting skills were a disaster and the trigger was the small profits after the Tusk tour. So it was logic they looked for different managers in 1982.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

What I really would've liked was that the band had done a new record in 2015 when Chris rejoined the ranks. I am still somewhat in shock that that didn't happen... it was a no-brainer. And they should've filmed something like The Dance with her return to promote said album.

At this point I really only want two more things before I kak it: 1) A remastered version of The Dance (have ya'll seen the HD vids from Warners on youTube?) and 2) for Buckingham Nicks to finally get a decent release CD/vinyl release.

Those were fun, TY. I especially liked the Tusk video. Lindsey's ex is in the front row. Is Glen Parish next to her? And, is that Edward Norton behind her?

[Tusky]

I think definitely on reflection, it feels like L+S both came back to re-route their own solo careers. LB for Gift of Screws and S post Street Angel. At the time I really bought the idea they were selling that the band were a band again and it would start a new chapters of albums and cohesiveness. But alas...it's still gutting to think of what they could have recorded and done in this time.
But I agree, if it didn't happen I don't think the alternative would have been good.
Also my view on Say You Will has changed too. I wish Lindsey was a bit more fluid about the whole thing, in the documentary when I watch it now, he just seems very unmovable re: the mix/production/track listing. I hate it but I sort of get why Stevie didn't want to work in that atmosphere again. Maybe Christine would have helped but then again when she did come back, it sounded like she was more than happy to give up creative control of her demos, which Stevie wasn't.
So inclusion - I'm happy that both The Dance and SYW exist because even those were on a knife edge and one off's.

[billwebster]

I'm thankful for every record they made, so I'm glad the band did this one. It gave them more opportunities to put out more records, both as a band and solo, even though it was just a "temporary one" as far as the popular lineup was concerned.
And yes, I like the "Say You Will" album. Though I did not think it would be their final album when it came out.
But neither did I think Stevie would not create a follow-up to "24 Karat Gold" from its release until today (summer '24).
Yet, there was a lot of other stuff happening in the past 10 years.
Both the comeback through a short Tiktok video and the lockdown from the global health crisis only 4 years ago were not thinkable when these albums came out. Neither was these artists selling off their publishing. Yet, that's how the world was turning.

When "The Dance" came out, the music world was a world of abundance. And you can hear it in its rich arrangements. Nowadays, the lack of income that artists get when you compare what they can make from the sales of yesteryear to the clicks from Spotify unfortunately leaves much to be desired.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by billwebster

When "The Dance" came out, the music world was a world of abundance. And you can hear it in its rich arrangements.

It was the reunions decade. It came out in the perfect moment. But that's history.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Their egos shouldn't have been out of control until post Rumours, so I disagree.

LOL! Just imagine what would have happened if Lindsey had treated Stevie the way he treated Christine. Imagine if he’d just taken that stupid copy of BD.

Her ego was as insufferable as his from 1985 onward as his was from 77-95.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

LOL! Just imagine what would have happened if Lindsey had treated Stevie the way he treated Christine. Imagine if he’d just taken that stupid copy of BD.

Her ego was as insufferable as his from 1985 onward as his was from 77-95.

But Stevie's an idiot. It's hard to respect an idiot.

[Villavic]

I'm listening The Dance right now, and thought, when Christine said a very old song, Say You Love Me was 22 years old. Now is 49. Old Rumours lineup studio songs are 37 yo or more. Well, even children get older.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

LOL! Just imagine what would have happened if Lindsey had treated Stevie the way he treated Christine. Imagine if he’d just taken that stupid copy of BD.

Her ego was as insufferable as his from 1985 onward as his was from 77-95.

Oh her ego blew up looooooooooong before 1985

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Oh her ego blew up looooooooooong before 1985

AMEN. Once Bella Donna took off, not to mention the entire world wanted to F her, her ego was out of control.

She kind of got the life she deserved.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Oh her ego blew up looooooooooong before 1985

There was a 1983 concert review that stated she relied on her sex appeal too much and that her attitude was one that the audience should feel lucky that she even showed up. It also went on to say her band seemed just as confused as her as her concert meandered to a "what ever happened to Stevie Nicks game show" since she drifted off stage so much.
The Wham concert incident in the summer of 1985 showed how out of control her ego was. Their security did not recognize her and she melted down. Andrew came out to rescue her but he said no matter how he tried to calm her it was not working.