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UnwindedDreams · #**271** 01-19-2023, 07:23 PM

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It’s absolutely spin. You’re trying to differentiate Fleetwood Mac playing works that a member recorded outside of Fleetwood Mac when it’s the exact same thing.

Fleetwood Mac has been doing that since Christine joined the band.

How is it spin when it is true that when members of FM performed external works in an FM setlist, those members had performed or made new music with Fleetwood Mac?

You're denying a fact.

UnwindedDreams · #**272** 01-19-2023, 07:29 PM

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When Mick did that interview in 2017, he said he’s always felt Lindsey and Stevie should be doing a Buckingham Nicks som and Christine a blues song, so even with it being Fleetwood Mac’s 50th Anniversary, it was never etched in stone that that’s all they were going to be playing. Fleetwood Mac has never been that rigid.

Was it planned as a 50 Year Anniversary Tour when Lindsey was still attached to the tour?

But the difference with Mick wanting a BN song and Christine doing one of her recordings is that Chris, Stevie, and Lindsey made albums in FM. So it's part of the story of the band. Mike and Neil joined a band with no new music to play. It's not Mike and Neil's fault.

SteveMacD · #**273** 01-19-2023, 07:57 PM

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The idea that you keep doing this, comparing crap from 1970, 1975, or 1990 to anything in 2018 is ridiculous. It was completely different.

Sorry, but “Crazy ‘Bout You Baby,” “Get Like You Used To Be,” “I’d Rather Go Blind,” “Stand Back,” “Go Insane,” and “Don’t Let Me Down Again” are as much Fleetwood Mac songs as “Don’t Dream It’s Over” or “Free Falling.”

Hypothetically, if the band had brought back Dave Mason and played “We Just Disagree,” “Only You Know & I Know,” and “Feelin’ Alright,” would that been okay? He was a member of Fleetwood Mac and released an album with them.

What if they brought Billy back, but he only did “Don’t Say No,” “Tangled Up In Texas,” and “Ain’t Got The Heart” in addition to the Lindsey songs, would people have been okay?

See, this is why I call BS. Fleetwood Mac did what it always did whenever they brought in someone new. The problem wasn’t the songs, the problem was the situation and the reaction would have been the same regardless.

UnwindedDreams · #**274** 01-19-2023, 07:59 PM

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Hypothetically, if the band had brought back Dave Mason and played “We Just Disagree,” “Only You Know & I Know,” and “Feelin’ Alright,” would that been okay? He was a member of Fleetwood Mac and released an album with them.

What if they brought Billy back, but he only did “Don’t Say No,” “Tangled Up In Texas,” and “Ain’t Got The Heart” in addition to the Lindsey songs, would people have been okay.

Yes!

Just no to the Lindsey songs.

And Dave did those songs, maybe not all when they did Time songs in concert.

Billy did Tear It Up when they were performing Tango songs.

BigAl84 · #**275** 01-19-2023, 08:00 PM

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Your bitterness has trumped your objectivity. You don’t add people with their backgrounds if recording wasn’t on the table. Mike is Stevie’s primary collaborator, Mick had just recorded an album with Neil, and Christine and Neil collaborated on new material on the road.

LOL are you on the same planet!? Are we talking about the same band!? They added them to make a big touring payday happen. Recording anything was nothing but a “bonus” if they could get Stevie involved.

One minute you’re claiming poor Mick had to scramble to get Mike and Neil and now you’re claiming they were hired because they wanted to record?

Mike Campbell has already stated that he “assumed” there was an inclination to record new music because that’s how the Heartbreakers operated, but quickly found out that the tour was their only priority.

BigAl84 · #**276** 01-19-2023, 08:02 PM

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Eh, I’m not sure Mick wasn’t being serious about it being a “new band” (new chapter would have been more appropriate, but I’m not nitpicking something a 70-something says). I legitimately think he thought adding Mike and Neil would lead to a new album and maybe another run of live shows beyond the 18-19 tour. I mean, if I was trying to lure Stevie into the studio, I’d start with Mike Campbell, too. And Neil seems like he’d be easygoing enough to make it an enjoyable process.

LOL….that’s a rookie miscalculation. On Mick’s part and yours.

UnwindedDreams · #**277** 01-19-2023, 08:06 PM

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Fleetwood Mac did what it always did whenever they brought in someone new.

It's true, but actually whenever they brought in someone new, the band was performing new music in their setlist. With Mike and Neil, they weren't.

SteveMacD · #**278** 01-19-2023, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Was it planned as a 50 Year Anniversary Tour when Lindsey was still attached to the tour?

Yes. They had the comp coming out.

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But the difference with Mick wanting a BN song and Christine doing one of her recordings is that Chris, Stevie, and Lindsey made albums in FM.

What about when Dave Mason was in the band? Time was released after they’d completed their tour dates?

SteveMacD · #**279** 01-19-2023, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

It's true, but actually whenever they brought in someone new, the band was performing new music in their setlist. With Mike and Neil, they weren't.

But that has nothing to do with Fleetwood Mac playing non-Fleetwood Mac songs. That’s a different discussion.

UnwindedDreams · #**280** 01-19-2023, 08:10 PM

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What about when Dave Mason was in the band? Time was released after they’d completed their tour dates?

It was released after the tour but they played Time songs in the setlist with Dave.

Extended Play wasn't released until 2 weeks plus after the first 2013 show, but FM did the new songs Sad Angel and Without You before the release any way.

SteveMacD · #**281** 01-19-2023, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Yes!

Just no to the Lindsey songs.

What about “Blue Letter?”

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Billy did Tear It Up when they were performing Tango songs.

Well, he recorded a version with The Zoo that had Christine on keyboards, so it had a connection to Fleetwood Mac.

UnwindedDreams · #**282** 01-19-2023, 08:16 PM

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But that has nothing to do with Fleetwood Mac playing non-Fleetwood Mac songs. That’s a different discussion.

But it's a fact that Mike and Neil were the first newcomers to Fleetwood Mac to not play new music in the setlist. And actually, was Tear It Up played on the Tango Tour? Or was it only The BTM Tour?

If it was only the BTM Tour, then it's not true that newcomers always played their external music on every tour.

BigAl84 · #**283** 01-19-2023, 08:16 PM

I don’t know about ya’ll, but for the past fifteen years every Fleetwood Mac show I’ve attended, I was really expecting them to play “Power of Love” by Huey Lewis and the news. I was shocked that it didn’t happen. What gives, if they do Stand Back they should be doing Huey Lewis too. Right!?

SteveMacD · #**284** 01-19-2023, 08:18 PM

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I don’t know about ya’ll, but for the past fifteen years every Fleetwood Mac show I’ve attended, I was really expecting them to play “Power of Love” by Huey Lewis and the news. I was shocked that it didn’t happen. What gives, if they do Stand Back they should be doing Huey Lewis too. Right!?

They would have played it if he was in the band.