Is this fair? - Page 9

button-lip · #**121** 07-06-2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris

There is no explanation that will ever suit you. In your eyes, and a certain other group of fan’s eyes, Stevie is guilty no matter what. Evil Incarnate. If Lindsey’s firing was not the focus, there would be another thing to harp about.

Awwww, poor Stevie! I think that this certain group grew a lot these past couple of months, thanks to her behavior.

Truth is many of those fans didn't have a problem with her until she decided to show Lindsey the door. So she's not exactly Sister Stevie.

StevieandChris · #**122** 07-06-2018, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by button-lip

Awwww, poor Stevie! I think that this certain group grew a lot these past couple of months, thanks to her behavior.

Truth is many of those fans didn't have a problem with her until she decided to show Lindsey the door. So she's not exactly Sister Stevie.

Like I said, I don’t have sympathy if she feels uncomfortable now. Her decisions have consequences, just like Lindsey’s.

StevieandChris · #**123** 07-06-2018, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by button-lip

Not anymore, according to ticket sales.

And I'm SO glad all of you Stevie's fans are seeing it now!

I have always seen it. It’s just no worse than Lindsey’s behavior. He just got the boot first. I am sure he would have loved to fire her in the 2000s if he was the one who had her power/popularity.

button-lip · #**124** 07-06-2018, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris

Like I said, I don’t have sympathy if she feels uncomfortable now. Her decisions have consequences, just like Lindsey’s.

And that’s why you’re gonna see her in March? Because you don’t care about her?

SteveMacD · #**125** 07-06-2018, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by button-lip

And that’s why you’re gonna see her in March? Because you don’t care about her?

What about those of who couldn’t care less about her?

I’m a Fleetwood Mac fan. I would rather have seen Stevie go. I would rather have had Buckingham Fleetwood McVie after 2004 than Lindsey solo, and Fleetwood Mac when Christine came back. Then again, I would have been happy with the “Love Shines” version of the band.

I don’t care that they are lying about what happened. Knowing just a little about their history, the truth might paint all of them in a bad light. And, I’ve also learned to never believe what they initially say.

Christine, Mick, and John are together again. All I need.

button-lip · #**126** 07-06-2018, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

What about those of who couldn’t care less about her?

I’m a Fleetwood Mac fan. I would rather have seen Stevie go. I would rather have had Buckingham Fleetwood McVie after 2004 than Lindsey solo, and Fleetwood Mac when Christine came back. Then again, I would have been happy with the “Love Shines” version of the band.

I don’t care that they are lying about what happened. Knowing just a little about their history, the truth might paint all of them in a bad light. And, I’ve also learned to never believe what they initially say.

Christine, Mick, and John are together again. All I need.

Whatever suits you. Because you don't care. Because you don't have Stevie's name on your username. So of course I believe you don't care.

StevieandChris · #**127** 07-06-2018, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by button-lip

And that’s why you’re gonna see her in March? Because you don’t care about her?

I like her music and I like Christine’s music. The two of them are why I am a Fleetwood Mac fan.

I did not say I didn’t care about her. I said I don’t feel very much sympathy because when you make a decision like this there are bound to be repercussions. I like her music and she is my favorite singer but I am not obsessed with her. She is a human, fascinating, aggravating and flawed but she is not a Goddess. I don’t “worship” any of these people.

SteveMacD · #**128** 07-06-2018, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by button-lip

Whatever suits you. Because you don't care. Because you don't have Stevie's name on your username. So of course I believe you don't care.

I don’t have Stevie’s name as my username. My name used to be Steve MacDougall, hence SteveMacD. Before that, I was smacdoug on the old usenet newsgroup.

My name has been Stephen Hopkins for the last five years, after getting to know my birth parents, who it turns out got married a few years after I was born and had three more children together. This is the only place where I still have a connection to that old identity.

ETA: my signature pic has been there for at least a year and a half.

SteveMacD · #**129** 07-06-2018, 09:11 PM

BTW, I quit caring last year. Between the album being released as LBCM and the canned backing tracks that were so prominent on the tour, I quit caring. Seeing Christine up close, personal, and enjoying herself was good enough. The fact they got top shelf, respectable choices this time makes it a little easier. Not what I wanted, but still compelling.

button-lip · #**130** 07-06-2018, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris

I like her music and I like Christine’s music. The two of them are why I am a Fleetwood Mac fan.

I did not say I didn’t care about her. I said I don’t feel very much sympathy because when you make a decision like this there are bound to be repercussions. I like her music and she is my favorite singer but I am not obsessed with her. She is a human, fascinating, aggravating and flawed but she is not a Goddess. I don’t “worship” any of these people.

The repercussions of her actions doesn't affect her and never will, so I'm still failing to see her in the same victim's light as Lindsey.

StevieandChris · #**131** 07-07-2018, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by button-lip

The repercussions of her actions doesn't affect her and never will, so I'm still failing to see her in the same victim's light as Lindsey.

And I don’t see Lindsey in a victim’s light. It’s regrettable, but he played a part, just like many people who get fired (as opposed to laid off).

mitzo · #**132** 07-07-2018, 11:50 AM

Lindsey is not a victim. I think his past has come back to haunt him, frankly.

gldstwmn · #**133** 07-07-2018, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris

All 5 are part of the tantrum. Something happened in the meeting no one will talk about, and L played a role like others did. This would not have happened otherwise.

I think they all will see themselves as the victim when it suits them. All five.

This has been my theory since day one.

mitzo · #**134** 07-07-2018, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

This has been my theory since day one.

Fully agreed.

gldstwmn · #**135** 07-07-2018, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sue

I think people are talking at cross purposes....
Gldstwmn mentioned about Lindsey being invited to rehearse but I think he was
talking about 1986/7 and Lindsey then leaving the band
People then thought gldstwmn meant like Now....
I think......

It's both. He quit the tour in 87 and was invited to rehearse on Maui.