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Old 05-30-2018, 11:44 AM
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I came here expecting to see discussion on whether people believe Mick and speculation as to what really happened. To me, something is missing. Note what Mick is denying, denying that "Stevie was responsible" or that she "gave an ultimatum". I think he's walking a fine line here, and finds it appropriate to say "No" because he can twist the wording in his mind. But that's it? Just No?
He and Stevie's explanations remind me of what a gang would say after a hit: "Did one of you do this?"; "No, we all did". Just my opinion but I think there's more than they're saying. Right off the bat "couldn't agree on aspects of the tour" and "wanted to delay the tour" are two different things. And neither strike me as being sufficient reason.
yes, and the other part of the question they asked was about Stevie wanting Lindsey out because she wanted Mike in the band.

So he could have been parsing the question and answering the bit about her premeditatively wanting Mike in the band.
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Old 05-30-2018, 12:43 PM
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Here is the simple answer; Mick is not the type of person to tell the truth of a situation to paparazzi, especially TMZ of all people. Mick is the type to update his autobiography with a new section based on this drama and reveal half truths and petty squabbles there.

The truth of the matter is we will never truly know what happened, only bits and bobs. This bands reputation and livelihood thrives off of drama and romanticism. Destroy that element of Stevie and Lindsey's contribution to the band by revealing how everything (potentially) ended for good and you dirty the legacy. However, I say potentially because of how 1997 went. Once the band suffers a flop, the Rumours line-up will be back. Nevermind what the rest of the band wants or doesnt want, I dont think Mick's ego can take a loss very well so potentially ending such a long career on a loss? Yeah, I dont think so.

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Old 05-30-2018, 01:20 PM
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Here is the simple answer; Mick is not the type of person to tell the truth of a situation to paparazzi, especially TMZ of all people. Mick is the type to update his autobiography with a new section based on this drama and reveal half truths and petty squabbles there.

The truth of the matter is we will never truly know what happened, only bits and bobs. This bands reputation and livelihood thrives off of drama and romanticism. Destroy that element of Stevie and Lindsey's contribution to the band by revealing how everything (potentially) ended for good and you dirty the legacy. However, I say potentially because of how 1997 went. Once the band suffers a flop, the Rumours line-up will be back. Nevermind what the rest of the band wants or doesnt want, I dont think Mick's ego can take a loss very well so potentially ending such a long career on a loss? Yeah, I dont think so.
That last line holds so much truth to it. He does not want a farewell tour to end on this note, that I really do believe. And likely why he’s so resistant to using the word “fired”
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Old 05-30-2018, 01:53 PM
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That last line holds so much truth to it. He does not want a farewell tour to end on this note, that I really do believe. And likely why he’s so resistant to using the word “fired”
Do you really think that Lindsey would go back NOW? I hope he doesn't, because they ruined the end of the band when they fired him.

I hope he tells them to shove it straight up their arses!
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Old 05-30-2018, 02:31 PM
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Its so weird. Stevie used to go so out of her way to keep Fleetwood Mac together. She stayed when Lindsey left. She even stayed when Christine left. I would love to know when she made the change to no longer try to preserve Fleetwood Mac especially since Christine came back. I know she does not care for Lindsey but you would think she would be like... we suffered all this time but one last album and tour will have us go out in style.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:03 PM
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holy sh*t, I leave for a few days and I come back to find out KellyAnne Conway is a Fleetwood Mac fan & taking to their defense on this board...
Ha! Good one.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:15 PM
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Do you really think that Lindsey would go back NOW? I hope he doesn't, because they ruined the end of the band when they fired him.

I hope he tells them to shove it straight up their arses!
Oh I don’t disagree with you. And he should. I would love to see them play again together but I wouldn’t blame him for telling Mick to shove his drumsticks up his Arse. Mick being the money grubbing Charlatan he is, he definitely doesn’t want the FM legacy ending on the current note
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:43 PM
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Do you really think that Lindsey would go back NOW? I hope he doesn't, because they ruined the end of the band when they fired him.

I hope he tells them to shove it straight up their arses!
I can see this happening,
The great reunion, I mean.
All forgiven, the return into the fold, etc etc.
They would all see it as a fitting end.
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Old 05-30-2018, 04:06 PM
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Its so weird. Stevie used to go so out of her way to keep Fleetwood Mac together. She stayed when Lindsey left. She even stayed when Christine left. I would love to know when she made the change to no longer try to preserve Fleetwood Mac especially since Christine came back. I know she does not care for Lindsey but you would think she would be like... we suffered all this time but one last album and tour will have us go out in style.
And even so, like someone else said his fingerprints are all over her life/career/music-- something that she used to really value. I remember I once read a klonopin era interview with her where she was just say anything with no filter or emotion like she always did in those years and she was talking about lyrics from a song she liked and she made this casual off comment like "Oh I probably always liked that song because it reminded me of Lindsey" or something like that. So it's all just really strange that's for sure. I do really think her grief over Tom has affected her deeply and affected her headspace.
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Do you really think that Lindsey would go back NOW? I hope he doesn't, because they ruined the end of the band when they fired him.

I hope he tells them to shove it straight up their arses!
I agree. I really don't think he will want to go back.... EVER. If the band is going to be so petty and were not prepared to meet him halfway with his duo tour plans then why should he be the bigger person and be sucked back into the drama. He doesn't need the money so he is not motivated by that. And the fact he is still being creative and I think will receive a huge amount of appreciation and respect from his fans on his next solo tour....all his career/musical/creative needs will now be met without them.
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[QUOTE=Angel75;1229858]I agree. I really don't think he will want to go back.... EVER. If the band is going to be so petty and were not prepared to meet him halfway with his duo tour plans then why should he be the bigger person and be sucked back into the drama. He doesn't need the money so he is not motivated by that. And the fact he is still being creative and I think will receive a huge amount of appreciation and respect from his fans on his next solo tour....all his career/musical/creative needs will now be met without them


If he were to agree to it, it would be along the lines of preserving the legacy, which he seems to be most upset/bothered by
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I can see this happening,
The great reunion, I mean.
All forgiven, the return into the fold, etc etc.
They would all see it as a fitting end.
And a really big bag of money.
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:34 PM
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Oh I don’t disagree with you. And he should. I would love to see them play again together but I wouldn’t blame him for telling Mick to shove his drumsticks up his Arse. Mick being the money grubbing Charlatan he is, he definitely doesn’t want the FM legacy ending on the current note
I would love for there to be a reunion again but I can't imagine it happening. Even if they can emotionally move past the damage that's been done with this to give it one last go, they're just too old, time isn't on their side here.
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Old 05-30-2018, 07:15 PM
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Its so weird. Stevie used to go so out of her way to keep Fleetwood Mac together. She stayed when Lindsey left. She even stayed when Christine left. I would love to know when she made the change to no longer try to preserve Fleetwood Mac especially since Christine came back. I know she does not care for Lindsey but you would think she would be like... we suffered all this time but one last album and tour will have us go out in style.
I think this would be too close to accepting her own pending mortality, so she's not thinking in terms of endings/legacies, or going out at all.
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Mick was a guest on the debut episode of Volume West on Sirius XM Channel 106. It's on demand on the Sirius XM app too.

The interview doesn't break any new information on what went down with Lindsey but Mick says that rehearsals start in August. He said he was recently with Stevie and Mike Campbell and after they ran through all the songs they want to play - including Stevie "threatening" to sing "Black Magic Woman" - they think the show may run close to 3 hours. He also said they are gonna try to work up a couple new songs - he referred to them as "calling cards" - to release before the tour.
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