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Old 05-01-2018, 11:01 PM
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...The Buckingham McVie album was quite forgettable. But kept Christine and Lindsey busy for awhile....
If “quite forgettable” means one excellent song after another arranged, produced, and performed with more ingenuity and heart than an FM release since Mirage, then yeah, it was quite forgettable.

I haven’t stopped listening to the album since its release last year.

For what it’s worth, I am also a fan of IYD. Both music projects offer fans new music (even if some came from old demos) that brings out the best in the respective artists. “Carnival Begin”, “Love is Here to Stay” and “Annabelle Lee” play on the strengths of each of these musicians.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:03 PM
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1 - That is not surprising. I think more people are surprised than not when they get the pink slip.
2 - He was the only band member in that video, wasn’t he. Talking to a group of fans. Is there video proof he relayed his wish to do both tours to the rest of the band? Or did he just decide this was what was going to happen without telling them? And HOW was this relayed to the rest of the band? Calmly? In a fight with Stevie? This is what a lot of us mean when we say there are a lot of unanswered questions.
1. Again, not a regular job. Really?
2. It doesn't matter! The point is that he didn't want to delay anything, like Stevie and Mick so nicely told all those stupid fans who wanted to believe their lies on Wednesday. He wanted to WORK, to CREATE.
Anyway, if you need to know where this is all coming from, you should join some of Lindsey's FB groups, so you can read how some people who's WORKING DIRECTLY WITH LINDSEY is saying exactly the same thing.

I'm not gonna believe anything the band said about Lindsey on CBS because he was not there, so yeah, a lot of unanwered questions on that interview.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:04 PM
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If “quite forgettable” means one excellent song after another arranged, produced, and performed with more ingenuity and heart than an FM release since Mirage, then yeah, it was quite forgettable.

I haven’t stopped listening to the album since its release last year.

For what it’s worth, I am also a fan of IYD. Both music projects offer fans new music (even if some came from old demos) that brings out the best in the respective artists. “Carnival Begin”, “Love is Here to Stay” and “Annabelle Lee” play on the strengths of each of these musicians.
Buckingham Nicks was clearly more forgettable. Only famous in Alabama.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:09 PM
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Still so disgusted with what they did to this band. They had a god damn few good years to go out TOGETHER and leave their legacy intact. They damn well didn't need anymore more money so freaking wait a few months for Lindsey. F*CK they didn't kick Stevie out when she didn't want to record. They are almost in their 80's, they will not be a viable band in a few more years.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:16 PM
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If there was a valid reason they would have said it on CBS last Wednesday. They didn't. And not exactly because they're all good buddies who didn't want to throw him under the bus. Stevie even referred to him as "certain person". They couldn't even said his name.

So, no , there was no valid reason other than an ultimatum.
Again, speculation. Another speculation, from me: The behind the scenes events leading up to the “ultimatum” could have been so ugly no one wanted to give the real reason so saying touring conflicts was the reason chosen. More speculation: maybe Lindsey is choosing to maintain his track record of silence, even in this unusual circumstance, because the real reason will make him look just as bad as the others, if not worse. And his family is siding with him because...they are his family.

You say “mindless Stevie fans” are in denial that she could have set this in motion, but I think Lindsey fans are just as in denial that he may have had a role to play in this and there was a reason his compromise was denied that had nothing to do with who fills the seats.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:26 PM
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Again, speculation. Another speculation, from me: The behind the scenes events leading up to the “ultimatum” could have been so ugly no one wanted to give the real reason so saying touring conflicts was the reason chosen. More speculation: maybe Lindsey is choosing to maintain his track record of silence, even in this unusual circumstance, because the real reason will make him look just as bad as the others, if not worse. And his family is siding with him because...they are his family.

You say “mindless Stevie fans” are in denial that she could have set this in motion, but I think Lindsey fans are just as in denial that he may have had a role to play in this and there was a reason his compromise was denied that had nothing to do with who fills the seats.
Well, if the only word you know is "speculation" then it's pretty difficult to talk to you.

Haha! Gimme a break! What could he have done to deserve being fired? Killed Karen? Killed her dog? You don't like his family? Well, then his band is supporting him. They would never do that and jeopardize their jobs if he had sone something wrong. And that's LOGIC, not speculation.

WE KNOW what happened. Tough for you and other "mindless Stevie fans" if you don't want to believe it. And not, that's not speculation.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:29 PM
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Well, if the only word you know is "speculation" then it's pretty difficult to talk to you.

Haha! Gimme a break! What could he have done to deserve being fired? Killed Karen? Killed her dog? You don't like his family? Well, then his band is supporting him. They would never do that and jeopardize their jobs if he had sone something wrong. And that's LOGIC, not speculation.

WE KNOW what happened. Tough for you and other "mindless Stevie fans" if you don't want to believe it. And not, that's not speculation.
Actually, right now it looks like it’s tough for you and your ilk. Lindsey is the one who was ****canned.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:35 PM
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Buckingham Nicks was clearly more forgettable. Only famous in Alabama.
Yeah, I’m in the minority, too, when I say Buckingham Nicks has become one of the most overpraised collaborations in 70s rock. It’s a good little record, occasionally even very good (‘Frozen Love”, “Long Distance Winner”) but certainly not classic and not, in my opinion, superior to the best moments on those 70-74 FM records. What that record lacks is a sufficient bottom end. “Frozen Love” and “Don’t Let Me Down Again” could have been killer with the Fleetwood-McVie-McVie trio setting the musical bed.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:50 PM
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thanks I must have gotten the two mixed up. I'm just kind of a nominal fan .
Yeah, I remember reading as well that Stan was the one who didn't like her.
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Then she should have left FM and join HB.
That wouldn't insure her iconic status, as much. OWNING FM as the star, will.

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Old 05-02-2018, 12:13 AM
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If “quite forgettable” means one excellent song after another arranged, produced, and performed with more ingenuity and heart than an FM release since Mirage, then yeah, it was quite forgettable.

I haven’t stopped listening to the album since its release last year.
A f*cking Men. Buck Vie is the BEST FM album since Mirage. I love it, and always will. Catchy AF. I've listened to it 3 times this week(after wearing it out, when it came out!).

Even if old Christine didn't have the balls to stand up for him, after this f*cking fiasco!
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Old 05-02-2018, 01:26 AM
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Buckingham Nicks was clearly more forgettable. Only famous in Alabama.
Slow your roll homie.
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Old 05-02-2018, 01:31 AM
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That wouldn't insure her iconic status, as much. OWNING FM as the star, will.

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Oh Homer you are SO right!!!! This almost deserves its own thread. Now FM will end with Stevie Nicks being FRONT and center. Christine likes being in the background and now Lindsey will be a member they replaced. This is how she wants FM to end. She as the only member they cant replace. She is SO evil.
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:35 AM
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Stevie has been acting like a f*cking diva since 1975, and yet she was never fired. Because she's Stevie Nicks. Do I need to say more? Nah, what's the point? But Lindsey's a jerk who deserved to be fired.
There is truth in both statements...
Yes, she is a diva.
Yes, he can be a jerk.
And that’s what makes a big part of Fleetwood Mac.
Without either one of them it’s less of a band....
(...I have not said he deserved to sacked...)
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themselves a Fleetwood Mac fan can
go and see them on this upcoming tour.
Mick, John, and Christine are going to be there.
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