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04-30-2018, 08:08 PM
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I am angry and outraged that this band has "fired" Lindsey. However, the truth remains that ticket sales will stay exactly the same. Most of the seats at a Fleetwood Mac concert are filled with mindless fans who couldn't care less about the band's back catalog and deep cuts. Moreover, I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't name all 5 members (beyond Stevie Nicks). They are there to hear ""Dreams", "Landslide", "Go Your Own Way" and "Don't Stop".....and for a few of them, it doesn't matter who is signing-- as long as Stevie is there. These casual fans will have ABSOLUTELY no problem with Neil Finn, Billy Burnett, or any guitarist of the moment singing an encore of "Go Your Own Way". Case closed. There's your paycheck, folks.
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04-30-2018, 08:19 PM
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What has happened with Lindsey's firing is outrageously disgusting. But, these arenas will be filled and ticket sales will not be hurt in the least. It's sad to say.
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04-30-2018, 08:28 PM
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my assertion is based on actual RECENT behavior from this band
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05-01-2018, 05:15 AM
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 ) And I'm going with one of those "mindless" fans who don't care about the back catalog. She cared for about 10 seconds that Lindsey wasn't going to be there ("I was hoping to see all 5..."), but then I told her Mike Campbell is great and she was fine.
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05-01-2018, 05:52 AM
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I think this tour will be similar with profit. I notice the tickets are more expensive. Ticket sales will be similar but maybe down a bit. Big test to see if they repeat cities like in 2014. If they repeat like On With The Show then you know the tour is going excellent. Bathroom breaks will see thousands of fans exit the arena during Rattlesnake Shake and when Stevie leaves the stage.
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05-01-2018, 07:10 AM
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1- he just toured several dozen cities last year. 2- people in their income bracket can usually afford the best healthcare available. 3- he's been seen in public recently and looks incredible, and he certainly had energy during their performance at MusiCares. 4- Lindsey was not only preparing to tour for several months with FM, he also (allegedly) wanted to perform live solo during their off days, as well. 5- even rock stars have to have insurance, and Billy Burnette wrote in his book about how insurance was a factor when it came to some of the venues they performed at. The band members have to be healthy enough to tour, or they wouldn't be approved by venues, who would have to deal with thousands of upset fans if a concert were canceled. So based on those actions, one can presume Lindsey is relatively healthy.
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05-01-2018, 07:59 AM
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05-01-2018, 12:47 PM
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Gimme a break!
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"I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective. What that did was to harm the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build, and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one's higher truth and one's higher destiny."Lindsey Buckingham, May 11, 2018.
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05-01-2018, 02:05 PM
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Before anyone tries to attack my validity due to my screen name as if that would diminish my credibility, it is true Stevie is my favorite but for me Stevie is a 9, Christine an 8, and Lindsey a 7. They are all very close to me and it's too close for me to sit there and attack one over the other. So yes, if the roles were reversed and Stevie was fired, I would say theorize the same thing that she must have done something huge for that result to have happened. Logically speaking, all or most of the other data points cited to support the anti-Stevie or Mick or even Christine vitriol don't make sense to me either. 1) They don't hold Stevie to the same standard. This doesn't hold true for me. Christine chose not to participate and they forged on as FM. Lindsey chose not to participate before in '87 and they forged on as FM. The point was made that Stevie chose to support IYD in '12 and thus broke Mick's heart because he didn't feel FM would ever tour again at the time and since Stevie chose not to participate anymore, they should have replaced her and forged on as FM then. However, in Christine and Lindsey's cases, their departures were supposedly permanent at the time and they legally withdrew themselves as contractual members of Fleetwood Mac. In fact, this happened with Stevie as well in the '90's when she officially withdrew and they DID forge on as FM then with a different lineup sans Stevie. But in 2012, pissed as Mick may have been, Stevie didn't withdraw from the band she prevented him from enacting plans he wanted to make. So his issue should have been that she wasn't available when he wanted her to be. Then this is the issue you say? Well… 2) I'm not saying Stevie is an angel by no means. I'm sure she has been a pain in the ass in the same way Lindsey has been a pain in the ass and John was when he was always drunk in the '70's. However, Stevie saying they had a problem with Lindsey wanting to delay this tour does not seem hypocritical to me because the issue isn't with "time", it's with "timing". In 2012, the only time Stevie has delayed FM's desires, no tour was actually booked. She didn't renig on any commitments or affect anyone's livelihood or bank accounts. BOTH times Lindsey has not toured with them it has been when contracts were drawn, tours were fully booked, schedules made, people hired, etc… Stevie threw away her own plans to support 24K Gold in order to do a second FM tour in a row once Christine came back. She asked for the time off after that which everyone agreed to. They said yes. Lindsey said yes. They agreed to tour in 2018. Everyone said yes. It's at this point that the issue isn't that one wanted time off but that you're going against an obligation you already agreed to. 3) Jealousy over the BuckVie album. Hogwash. There's no logic to support this at all. She's washed up and has no creativity. More hogwash. Even if that were the case, she has plenty of old demos to submit. She was asked several times to participate and CHOSE not to. She did her solo thing because she had put it off for 2 years already. Jealous over the name? Not letting it be called Fleetwood Mac? Hogwash. It couldn't be called Fleetwood Mac legally. All other times a member has been missing and an album was subsequently made, the missing member was no longer a contractual member of the band. There have been FM albums without Christine. There have been FM albums without Lindsey and there has even been an album (Time) without Stevie that was indeed called Fleetwood Mac. But she was not a legal member of the band then. This time she was. You could not call that Fleetwood Mac. It had to be called something else. Please stop with Stevie was jealous and wouldn't let it be called Fleetwood Mac. That's ludicrous thinking. As many years as I have consulted humans on many levels, I would bet my life Lindsey did something pretty huge for this to have happened. But is he the devil? No. Does he deserve the blame? Not necessarily. Who knows he could have been provoked, who knows the backstory or anything else. And this does not mean to lessen or negate all of his incredible contributions to the band over the years. This is less about the "what" but probably more about the "how" it happened or even "why". And it's not because after all these years Stevie could not stomach one more tour with him and would risk all of this backlash. Does not pass the common sense test. Way too savvy for that she is. And why would Lindsey's family be protecting him and/or why wouldn't Stevie and Mick be showing no mercy in the media if Lindsey did something. Because they didn't reveal that he slapped Stevie back in '87 right away either. And even then Stevie also tried to strangle him so it was more about what triggered the physical altercation than the altercation itself. So in short, this **** is complicated and no one is going to be able to discern the absolute truth with any certainty unless a video recording of everything that was said suddenly comes to light. So until then, can we please stop the blaming? Because all I am is theorizing, which I'm only doing to demonstrate that it's possible to look at this from another point of view. I'm not blaming any of them or I'd have to start blaming ALL of them. Last edited by StevieNicksfann; 05-01-2018 at 02:18 PM..
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