Lindsey was fired. RIP Fleetwood Mac.

[David]

Originally Posted by chriskisn

Fleetwood Mac has survived for 51 years, don't reckon Lindsey going will be the end.

The notion of survival doesn't mean all that much to me. The planet is filled with bands that have survived, but who wants to listen to them? I drive down the 215 and see a billboard for yet another Journey concert at one of the north county casinos, and I think "Good Lord." Journey survives — but what's the point? Another year playing casinos and fairs milking the old hits made famous by the original singer? It really is just a paycheck at that point. If Fleetwood Mac wants to "survive" and tour with strange new members, milking old hits made famous by the departed, it is just a paycheck. No interest to me. Those who find it interesting are in luck, certainly — but I wonder whether they're kidding themselves.

The music will live on, the crowds will still flock to see them, the money will roll in.

I'm not so sure that the music will live on. Behind the Mask and Time are as dead as the next album in the cutout bin. This latest (and I hope last) incarnation will leave no lasting music, no legacy. The crowds will still flock, probably, and the money will roll in. The band just wants a paycheck, and they'll get a paycheck.

We don't know why, it will come out in the end but hell the facts are still muddied about the Weston sacking and I wasn't even born then.

I was trying to remember all the members who've been sacked: Danny Kirwan, Bob Weston, Dave Walker, Lindsey Buckingham (twice), Billy Burnette? Lindsey's distinction — a two-time sacking — must hold the record. How embarrassing. (Would you say that Brunning was sacked? Or was he hired only for one gig, which was made clear to him beforehand?)

I don't get too caught up in the personalities, just hope we get some new music, and a new album.

It's the personalities that make the music. Why not get "caught up" in them? Who do you think made Black Magic Woman and Sands of Time and Tusk and Sara and Come a Little Bit Closer and the Derelict?

I reject the sociological view of Fleetwood Mac. It isn't a neighborhood, where people can move in and out without affecting the particular character. Fleetwood Mac, to the contrary, has had so many people move in and out since 1967 that it has several characters, some memorable and some utterly unmemorable. The revolving door policy has certainly generated a bunch of very different audiences, many of which have been at each other's throats.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

It's good that we can still laugh.

If we all had the same opinion, life would suck.

[secondhandchain]

and then we'll see them like this. Is it all just phony? "my oldest and dearest friend" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJkFT5il8U

[Storms123]

Originally Posted by secondhandchain

and then we'll see them like this. Is it all just phony? "my oldest and dearest friend" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJkFT5il8U

"The Only person who could ever do this"...................

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by secondhandchain

and then we'll see them like this. Is it all just phony? "my oldest and dearest friend" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJkFT5il8U

I wrote it (Landslide) for Lindsey- for him, about him.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by David

I was trying to remember all the members who've been sacked: Danny Kirwan, Bob Weston, Dave Walker, Lindsey Buckingham (twice), Billy Burnette? Lindsey's distinction — a two-time sacking — must hold the record. How embarrassing. (Would you say that Brunning was sacked? Or was he hired only for one gig, which was made clear to him beforehand?)
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Does the first time really count? It's never really been portrayed that they sacked him/he left unwillingly. He didn't want to tour at all and according to him nearly lost his sanity making the Tango album so he basically had to leave. It's not like they kicked him out while he still actively wanted to be in the band. Isn't that why Stevie 'attacked' him (her words) and that ugly fight happened? She got so mad that he was leaving even though I read once that she claimed she knew he had one foot out the door for a long time because he was so unhappy.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by David

The notion of survival doesn't mean all that much to me. The planet is filled with bands that have survived, but who wants to listen to them? I drive down the 215 and see a billboard for yet another Journey concert at one of the north county casinos, and I think "Good Lord." Journey survives — but what's the point? Another year playing casinos and fairs milking the old hits made famous by the original singer? It really is just a paycheck at that point. If Fleetwood Mac wants to "survive" and tour with strange new members, milking old hits made famous by the departed, it is just a paycheck. No interest to me. Those who find it interesting are in luck, certainly — but I wonder whether they're kidding themselves.

Well-said.

[Storms123]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Well-said.

Agreed very well said

[secondhandchain]

Originally Posted by Storms123

Agreed very well said

exactly there is ZERO artistry in this decision. Simply a cash grab to GRAB YOUR CASH, with a fill in band. Will they sound great? Yes. But it's not the real Mac and at this point the ONLY real mac is the fab 5. When Christine wasn't there I felt the same way and did not see them live. I find it funny that they need to always replace lindsey with TWO FREAKING guitarists. What does that tell you?

[Tango]

It took a long time to return to this particular formation, but it was lost again when Christine left in 1997. And it seemed to just be coming together again when she returned. It's sad that the five fell apart again.

[jbrownsjr]

^^^^^ I remember how heartbroken I was when Christine left.

And now this..

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I wrote it (Landslide) for Lindsey- for him, about him.

But I also wrote it for Hurricane Katrina. And for Hillary Clinton's bid for the presidency.

[Tango]

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

But I also wrote it for Hurricane Katrina. And for Hillary Clinton's bid for the presidency.

This is why Lindsey has stopped paying attention to her a long time ago. After 53 years, he was really tired of her lies, as well as she was probably tired of his hurtful words. But I’m sure it never, ever crossed his mind to get her fired.

[The Catdancer]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I can't quote all your posts. But, I generally agree with everything you've posted in this thread. My sources have told me virtually the same thing. And I have a few. I love Stevie's solo work. After OSOTM the writing lost it's sparkle. The magic that took your heart strings was gone. She tries to be a version of herself instead of just being herself. Sure there's great tunes afterward. I love Illume and a few others.

She's become the kind of person I never thought she would become. She and Christine are such polar opposites in class and elegance. A friend of mine, (who isn't into FM, but into rock and roll) said, "Stevie Nicks is the Rosanne Barr of music." The trajectory of attitude and class have diminished. Her fame is based on people's love of the fantasies she's built over the years. Me included.

I don't fault her for not signing everyone an autograph. It's sad that people do wait in the rain and don't get to talk to her. But, she simply can't do it.

However, it brings a story to mind: I sat next to Judith Light on a trip to LAX from JFK. I got to chat with her for 6 hrs. She said to me, "Part of my job is to touch and talk with as many fans as I can. I enjoy it. And it reminds me that my art is nothing without them" I was shocked when she said that to me. I personally would hate to be famous. I mean look at the folks here on The Ledge.
Some of them are plum crazy. Imagine what it's like out there.

My thoughts exactly. I never thought I'd see the day where I would say:"She became a diva".