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Old 04-09-2018, 08:50 PM
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who said she can't enjoy herself on a solo tour?
She can. And she should have continued doing it. And leave FM.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:52 PM
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I am a massive Stevie fan, I can’t stand Lindsey, but what happened is outrageous. The statement from the “band” makes me sick. I hope the tour tanks and have no idea why anyone would buy a ticket to that hot mess. All FM fans should be disgusted.
I too am a massive Stevie fan. But, this is just wrong. The Mac is not The Mac without Lindsey!
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:57 PM
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The most sickening part is that the band could say nothing more than that it wishes Lindsey all the best. Not even a thank you for rescuing their asses over and over for all these years. Pathetic.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:58 PM
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She can. And she should have continued doing it. And leave FM.
I would’ve been fine with that. There has been no real FM for over 30 years other than a few moments of magic in 1997 and 2014.

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Old 04-09-2018, 08:59 PM
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Oh my, it's been years since I've been here. What a day. It's a lot to take in, and surely there will be more to come out, but my thoughts as the afternoon has gone on.

-At the end of the day, it's sad that things are going down this way. Too bad that we didn't know that the last time you saw them live, if you did, that it would be the last time. Lindsey is a legendary talent, and you can't even enumerate what he brought to this band
-I have to say though, the vitriol directed at Stevie on this board. Yikes. I know this is the internet, and I'm no shrinking violet, but ooo boy. It's a little scary. Ultimately, my gut instinct is that this game down to a game of chicken regarding whether Lindsey would commit to going on tour, and they called his bluff. But, if it is because Stevie said, at 70 years old, I can't/won't commit to spending 6 months in a studio in this man, or time on the road with this man, I have to say, I get it. I love Stevie, and I love Lindsey, in a way that a stranger can love an artist who produces music they love. But, all evidence points to Lindsey being at the very least emotionally abusive to Stevie for many years. Is she a peach? Ohhh heck no. But, as a woman, sometimes I'm amazed she put up with him as long as she had. And if Christine was standing behind her on that, I would respect that too. But all that said, I think that's a long shot for the real reason. But regardless, people being so vicious towards Stevie is just....I don't know.
-In terms of seeing Fleetwood Mac again, my initial instinct, was no way. But as I thought about it, I began to think, is it wise to cut off your nose to spite your face? Do I sacrifice seeing Christine and Stevie, who I continue to admire and love to see perform, when it's just the truth that they're getting older? I don't think I can do that. (There's also a huge curiosity to see what it will be like) But I'm blessed to be able to buy a ticket without much strain. If it's an investment in this age of ridiculous ticket prices for you to go and it's not worth it if Lindsey's not going to be there? Man I get that.
-And then, at the end of the day, I remember that these are five rich white people, they're all going to be fine, we're all going to be fine, and I'm going to see Beyonce in August so really it's all gravy.

Alright troops, best to you all, and congrats to making in through today!
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:01 PM
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I hope Lindsey eventually gives his side of the story and rips them all apart. I have always thought that he was an arrogant SOB, but he was a genius SOB who worked hard to keep the band alive and did his job, which is more than I can say for some other members of the band.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:02 PM
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This is just terrible. It doesn't matter what happened. When there is a conflict, WORK IT OUT. Respect the 40 years that a person has given to that band and the amount of work they've done and how much of their own solo effort they sacrificed for the band and WORK IT OUT. Do whatever it takes to come to a resolution. Don't just FIRE someone. They were almost over anyways! And it's an injustice to the devoted fans.

Unfortunately I'm starting to worry that the Stevie ultimatum "me or him" was true and that's what really led to it. I don't doubt Lindsey caused trouble when he asked for whatever he asked for or disagreed with in regards to the tour, but they should've handled it better.
Well said....
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:11 PM
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The most sickening part is that the band could say nothing more than that it wishes Lindsey all the best. Not even a thank you for rescuing their asses over and over for all these years. Pathetic.
I don't want to solely blame any one band member for this fiasco. They're all at fault due to stubborn attitudes. I truly believe that Lindsey held out on them, which is exactly what Stevie did previously. He was trying to teach her a lesson and it backfired. At that point, the band should have waited for him to do his thing. The fact that they chose to go on the road without him was the final stab! Truly unbelievable! If anything, Stevie and Lindsey are mostly to blame, but all hold an equal share because someone could've said "no".
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:15 PM
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I don't want to solely blame any one band member for this fiasco. They're all at fault due to stubborn attitudes. I truly believe that Lindsey held out on them, which is exactly what Stevie did previously. He was trying to teach her a lesson and it backfired. At that point, the band should have waited for him to do his thing. The fact that they chose to go on the road without him was the final stab! Truly unbelievable! If anything, Stevie and Lindsey are mostly to blame, but all hold an equal share because someone could've said "no".
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:18 PM
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Apparently Lindsey can if he was "oh a jerk to Stevie".

No matter how much he contributed to the band, no matter how energetic he's on stage, no matter how many times he sacrificed his solo career for FM, he was a JERK to Stevie. Ok? So anyone is better than Lindsey. Because he was a JERK!
Well, he probably never threw a Les Paul at your head.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:20 PM
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Sounds like a parody of the Bonnie Caryn post ...
Didn't she sing Total Eclipse of the Heart? Everyone always thinks she's Stevie.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:23 PM
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Going against the grain here, but I'm ok with this after being in shock initially. FM has always had personnel changes and Buckingham really gave the impression he hated being in FM recently. He is free and can do as he pleases now. Even though I follow his solo career, his voice gets on my nerves sometimes (especially recently), coming off whiny quite a bit. It's interesting how so many people comment on sites how he's so underrated...blah, blah, blah. But his solo work and tours dictate he isn't a huge seller (not that it matters)...if these people think he's so great....where are they on album and tour support?

Mike Campbell is awesome and Neil Finn has a great voice....I admit, kinda curious. I don't know...everyone is so old now. I think I'm still confused.
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I hope Lindsey eventually gives his side of the story and rips them all apart. I have always thought that he was an arrogant SOB, but he was a genius SOB who worked hard to keep the band alive and did his job, which is more than I can say for some other members of the band.
Exactly! The fact that AGAIN they need two musicians to fill his spot makes me think he has every right to be an arrogant SOB.

And there's always the chance to say goodbye if you're not comfortable or feel that you're being verbally abused.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:24 PM
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Didn't she sing Total Eclipse of the Heart? Everyone always thinks she's Stevie.
That was Bonnie Tyler.
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:25 PM
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I can't help but think of the heartbreakers. They were honored by Music Cares and went on to do an amazing tour.

Fleetwood Mac is honored in the same way and they go off and fire one of their defining, core members. So sad.

I'm speechless at Mick but not shocked. Anyone who has watched Destiny Rules can see how two faced he was with Lindsey. One minute talking about a double album with Lindsey then completely mocking him when talking to his manager.

The only reason he hasn't betrayed Stevie since 1991 is because they had a fling in 1978 and both have a penchant for any money they can get.

It's ironic how much Stevie adores Tom Petty. She should of taken a few pages from his playbook and get back to the music. This band will never have the class and dignity that tom and the heartbreakers did.
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