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dreamsunwind · #**481** 03-04-2017, 11:31 PM

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It's amazing how far their tastes have gone in such different directions.

Well Christine also has pretty different musical tastes than Lindsey and always has, but she still willing to let him work on songs, whereas Stevie doesn't anymore. She basically hated Say You Will and how her songs came out on it and so she's never really given him a song to work on since. Which, I can understand, I even don't like some of the stuff he does in more recent years but how could she even know without trying.

aleuzzi · #**482** 03-05-2017, 01:51 PM

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Well Christine also has pretty different musical tastes than Lindsey and always has, but she still willing to let him work on songs, whereas...

Definitely. I sense from interviews that Christine's pop craft, her fluency on the piano, and her persistent commitment to the blues have always fascinated Lindsey. Just as she respects him, he respects her.

Christine's humility is also a good fit because she doesn't apparently mind when Lindsey occasionally condescends her, such as when, in speaking of their collaboration," Lindsey says: "this is something you have always wanted me to do FOR you." As if they weren't collaborating! Or when, in his absence, she built up YMLF by herself and he later said he was "proud of her." Christine is secure enough in her own musical abilities and songwriting skills to not seem to mind--and even complement him further.

**jbrownsjr** · #**483** 03-05-2017, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Definitely. I sense from interviews that Christine's pop craft, her fluency on the piano, and her persistent commitment to the blues have always fascinated Lindsey. Just as she respects him, he respects her.

Christine's humility is also a good fit because she doesn't apparently mind when Lindsey occasionally condescends her, such as when, in speaking of their collaboration," Lindsey says: "this is something you have always wanted me to do FOR you." As if they weren't collaborating! Or when, in his absence, she built up YMLF by herself and he later said he was "proud of her." Christine is secure enough in her own musical abilities and songwriting skills to not seem to mind--and even complement him further.

I think she understands that his ego needs to be stroked a bit. It's her way of showing appreciation. As artists, we all have egos. We need them. Some people more than others... ( rolls eyes)

He also said, (paraphrasing) "she wrote my melody and lyrics and came up with something better than I came up with..."

michelej1 · #**484** 03-05-2017, 05:50 PM

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Christine's humility is also a good fit because she doesn't apparently mind when Lindsey occasionally condescends her, such as when, in speaking of their collaboration," Lindsey says: "this is something you have always wanted me to do FOR you." As if they weren't collaborating! Or when, in his absence, she built up YMLF by herself and he later said he was "proud of her." Christine is secure enough in her own musical abilities and songwriting skills to not seem to mind--and even complement him further.

I don't think Lindsey said he was proud of her for YMLF. I think that anecdote came from Ken's book. I think it was Ken's perception that Lindsey was proud of what Christine had done, when he heard it. He wrote that about Lindsey in his book and I don't necessarily see it as a condescending thing. You can be proud of what someone has done without patronizing them, just happy that someone you feel you have a connection to is excelling.

Which is not to say that Lindsey doesn't patronize.

Michele

**jbrownsjr** · #**485** 03-05-2017, 06:03 PM

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I don't think Lindsey said he was proud of her for YMLF. I think that anecdote came from Ken's book. I think it was Ken's perception that Lindsey was proud of what Christine had done, when he heard it. He wrote that about Lindsey in his book and I don't necessarily see it as a condescending thing. You can be proud of what someone has done without patronizing them, just happy that someone you feel you have a connection to is excelling.

Which is not to say that Lindsey doesn't patronize.

Michele

I think Lindsey loved having someone to jam and write with. I don't think he really ever had that with Stevie. I give him credit for taking her out of her conservative nature. I think she was a little more daring w/ Welch because the genre was different and she was such a natural. Bad Loser, Morning Rain, Why are all examples of her natural ability to put out a excellent craft. I think Lindsey makes it quirky. Hold Me sounded nothing like anything that came out in 1982. I give him credit for that.

HomerMcvie · #**486** 03-05-2017, 06:15 PM

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I think Lindsey loved having someone to jam and write with. I don't think he really ever had that with Stevie. I give him credit for taking her out of her conservative nature. I think she was a little more daring w/ Welch because the genre was different and she was such a natural. Bad Loser, Morning Rain, Why are all examples of her natural ability to put out a excellent craft. I think Lindsey makes it quirky. Hold Me sounded nothing like anything that came out in 1982. I give him credit for that.

I agree. They completely balance each other. She "pops out" his weirdness, and he quirks up her pop ditties.

And Hold Me is the perfekt example. I wish it translated better live, though.

**jbrownsjr** · #**487** 03-05-2017, 06:46 PM

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I agree. They completely balance each other. She "pops out" his weirdness, and he quirks up her pop ditties.

And Hold Me is the perfekt example. I wish it translated better live, though.

It feels like they kind of threw it together live. Stevie should not be singing on it.

The verses are amazing live.. but they screwed up the chorus.

HomerMcvie · #**488** 03-05-2017, 07:08 PM

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It feels like they kind of threw it together live. Stevie should not be singing on it.

The verses are amazing live.. but they screwed up the chorus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRiwAIFIpng

I thought I found an actual live video of it(at first), but it's a video montage over the audio.

I remember Lindsey doing different stuff on it, though. I SWEAR he would scream, "WHY DON'T YOU COME ON AND A", in between "Hold Me"s.

It's been a minute or two since the Mirage Tour, hasn't it?

But I stand behind my memory!

**jbrownsjr** · #**489** 03-05-2017, 07:26 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRiwAIFIpng

I thought I found an actual live video of it(at first), but it's a video montage over the audio.

I remember Lindsey doing different stuff on it, though. I SWEAR he would scream, "WHY DON'T YOU COME ON AND A", in between "Hold Me"s.

It's been a minute or two since the Mirage Tour, hasn't it?

But I stand behind my memory!

She and her 1984 solo band nailed it!! Wish we could find that.

**jbrownsjr** · #**490** 03-05-2017, 07:30 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRiwAIFIpng

I thought I found an actual live video of it(at first), but it's a video montage over the audio.

I remember Lindsey doing different stuff on it, though. I SWEAR he would scream, "WHY DON'T YOU COME ON AND A", in between "Hold Me"s.

It's been a minute or two since the Mirage Tour, hasn't it?

But I stand behind my memory!

See what I mean about Stevie singing... hooooollllllddddd meeeeeee

And the chorus.. but listen to the harmonies (especially from Christine) on the verses.. very good..

HomerMcvie · #**491** 03-05-2017, 07:47 PM

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See what I mean about Stevie singing... hooooollllllddddd meeeeeee

And the chorus.. but listen to the harmonies (especially from Christine) on the verses.. very good..

Apparently they should have taped down more than the jinglebobs on her tambourine!

I wish they'd played it on every tour afterwards!

**jbrownsjr** · #**492** 03-05-2017, 07:56 PM

But here's a gem that she didn't have Lindsey.. and I think it's amazing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROGEHq1WZqU

HomerMcvie · #**493** 03-05-2017, 08:04 PM

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But here's a gem that she didn't have Lindsey.. and I think it's amazing..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROGEHq1WZqU

I've always love ALAYF. Love Shines is another AMAZING hidden gem!!!

**jbrownsjr** · #**494** 03-05-2017, 08:15 PM

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I've always love ALAYF. Love Shines is another AMAZING hidden gem!!!

Lindsey did for a bit make it seem like everyone needed him.

I remember reading a post Tusk article.. or maybe during Mirage.. I think it was Circus or Hit parader...

paraphrasing ("Stevie usually needs my help to form her songs.. Christine doesn't need me as much but tends to do what I do.."

michelej1 · #**495** 03-05-2017, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I think Lindsey loved having someone to jam and write with. I don't think he really ever had that with Stevie. I give him credit for taking her out of her conservative nature. I think she was a little more daring w/ Welch because the genre was different and she was such a natural. Bad Loser, Morning Rain, Why are all examples of her natural ability to excel in her craft. I think Lindsey makes her quirky. Hold Me sounded nothing like anything that came out in 1982. I give him credit for that.

And for the vocals, I remember a Los Angeles review admiring the way she crooned and he demanded like a werewolf. The blend was enticing.

Michele