The Buckingham McVie album! Out June 9th, 2017!!! - Page 28

elle · #**406** 02-07-2017, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

btw, you could respond a little more appropriately

not sure what this means, but definitely don't appreciate the tone.

obviously we've heard different things in 2009 and 2013-2015. i though LB's voice sounded completely shut in 2009. i was completely shocked when i first saw him live solo in 2011. couldn't believe that's the same person.

i though Christine's voice was fine during 2014-15 tour, but she'd get pitchy from time to time.

FuzzyPlum · #**407** 02-07-2017, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elle

not sure what this means, but definitely don't appreciate the tone.

Perhaps you should have more self awareness of the tone of your own posts, sorry but I take them to be quite aggressive.

HomerMcvie · #**408** 02-07-2017, 05:12 PM

When I saw Lindsey solo in Nov of 13?, I was amazed at how strong he sounded. But I was shocked at how weak he was at OWS. He barely sang AT ALL on the choruses, just letting the backup girls sing the choruses.

I say there is NO WAY they could go out as a 4 piece, without someone helping out with vocals. Maybe if they had Brett and someone else playing and singing, they could make it without the girls. That would be my preference!

**jbrownsjr** · #**409** 02-07-2017, 06:16 PM

OWS I thought Stevie sounded strong on her songs.. although her range is very small..

I thought LB was very strong.. especially on the third show I saw.
I thought Christine was far less pitchy as time went on. Although, her outdoor stuff was not very good.

We have to remember these people are grandparents' age.. lol

dreamsunwind · #**410** 02-07-2017, 06:35 PM

I watched a lot of videos from the last tour and I think everyone sounded not so great. Stevie, Lindsey, and Christine all were not in their finest form. I think it might have something to do with how long and grueling the tour must've been, in addition to obvious factors like age. At least for Lindsey the way he plays still blows my mind. Stevie in general, I just really don't like the tone of her voice anymore. Christine I still like her tone but she was really, really pitchy in a lot of videos I saw.

elle · #**411** 02-07-2017, 07:15 PM

haha look at us being all over the place and slowly coming up to some more rounded conclusions!

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

When I saw Lindsey solo in Nov of 13?, I was amazed at how strong he sounded. But I was shocked at how weak he was at OWS. He barely sang AT ALL on the choruses, just letting the backup girls sing the choruses.

completely agree with all of this (Homer, i think that's a first!), he always sounds great solo, and then barely sings and just shouts or lets it go with FM when doing most their hits. he does put an effort and sounds good on new songs or songs where he's the only predominant singer (eg Sad Angel, Big Love).

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

]OWS I thought Stevie sounded strong on her songs.. although her range is very small..

I thought LB was very strong.. especially on the third show I saw.
I thought Christine was far less pitchy as time went on. Although, her outdoor stuff was not very good.

We have to remember these people are grandparents' age.. lol

there are many singers their age who still sound fantastic though.

i generally agree with you re Stevie on the last FM tour - she sounded strong and on pitch, just small range.

LB - see above about what i've heard but i haven't see your 3rd show so who knows? Christine imo was the most variable - sometimes sounding great, and then some shows and songs incredibly pitchy. but i think her voice is still n good shape, and if she and LB find the right balance and key to sing their songs in, and i'd suspect that new songs were probably written in the key that suits them both, especially once they didn't have to worry about fitting SN's range anymore.

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I watched a lot of videos from the last tour and I think everyone sounded not so great. Stevie, Lindsey, and Christine all were not in their finest form. I think it might have something to do with how long and grueling the tour must've been, in addition to obvious factors like age. At least for Lindsey the way he plays still blows my mind. Stevie in general, I just really don't like the tone of her voice anymore. Christine I still like her tone but she was really, really pitchy in a lot of videos I saw.

i think this make sense, but Lindsey's solo tours are much longer and with many more dates in a row (usually shows on 4 subsequent days, then a day off, then another 4 show dates in a row - and there he has to sing and carry every song. so i don't know that logic really applies to him. i think much lower range and wrong key for his current voice are more to blame in his specific case.

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

[I say there is NO WAY they could go out as a 4 piece, without someone helping out with vocals. Maybe if they had Brett and someone else playing and singing, they could make it without the girls. That would be my preference!

see i just don't get the logic in expecting that LB and CM would for even a second consider having FM backup girls. LB solo never had those girls as backup singers. let's be realistic, FM backup singers are really SN's backup singers, not FM's (even if they've been with them since just after LB first left in the 80s). but Lindsey solo hasn't had these particular backup singers on any of his tours, and neither did Christine.

on the other hand, besides keyboard and guitars, Brett and Neale did provide backup singing on every LB solo tour in this century except the last one which was completely solo, so to speculate they'd be a part of the CM-LB tour makes much more sense.

aggressive enough for ya Fuzzy?

dreamsunwind · #**412** 02-07-2017, 07:27 PM

Didn't Christine used to not be much of a fan of 'the girls'? I read somewhere on the first FM tour Stevie brought them on she said something about how she doesn't want to see them. Obviously that was a long time ago but I wonder if her attitude has changed.

AlexD · #**413** 02-07-2017, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum

Perhaps you should have more self awareness of the tone of your own posts, sorry but I take them to be quite aggressive.

They seem okay to me!!!

SteveMacD · #**414** 02-08-2017, 12:32 AM

I vote Susanna Hoffs for additional guitar and background vocals.

HomerMcvie · #**415** 02-08-2017, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by elle

see i just don't get the logic in expecting that LB and CM would for even a second consider having FM backup girls. LB solo never had those girls as backup singers. let's be realistic, FM backup singers are really SN's backup singers, not FM's (even if they've been with them since just after LB first left in the 80s). but Lindsey solo hasn't had these particular backup singers on any of his tours, and neither did Christine.

Of COURSE they were Stevie's backup singers, and it was ridiculous, BACK IN THE DAY. But Fleetwood Mac(as we know it now) was built on 3 part harmony, so a vocal duet just isn't going to cut it. Especially at their ages, with hit and miss performances.

Again, I would much rather hear a couple extra MUSICIANS singing along, adding to their sound, than Stevie's "friends".

Hell, the whole point of this album and tour should be - Thank God we don't have to deal with that loon and her entourage!!!

**SisterNightroad** · #**416** 02-08-2017, 07:00 AM

All singers with age start losing range and breath so they have to develop "adapting solutions" to keep performing the same songs. Changing keys and using backup singers are of help but they aren't the only means and it depends on personal preferences.
For example one of the best "tricks" that I remember now is to perform songs imperceptibly slowlier, so that slow songs since they're already slow don't seem different but also faster songs aren't noticeably different even if they've been slowed down because in comparison to the others they seem much faster anyway. This was the favourite trick of Pavarotti but also some classic soul and r&b singers, and it's particularly adapt for single acts.

shackin'up · #**417** 02-08-2017, 02:28 PM

Lindsey''s favorite trick since the dance is prerecorded vocals. They use them all the time. Even with Stevie's Girls. So he'll trick us in a possible BM tour too. Sadly.