The Buckingham McVie album! Out June 9th, 2017!!! - Page 25

TrueFaith77 · #**361** 01-25-2017, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnL

Just stop with the negativity about her. She will always be an integral part of what made up Fleetwood Mac. I don't get why you people cant just let it go. She doesn't want to be in the studio with them anymore...and she has that right. Just like Christine had the right to leave when she did...just like Lindsey had the right to leave when he did. I truly wish she would just leave the band myself if only to stop this back and forth on here.

In my opinion, Lindsey, Christine, and Stevie were all wrong to leave. But this is my opinion as a fan (who believes they are best/most interesting with that dynamic) and as a person who participates in social situations and thinks it is wrong to just bail. They all have their reasons (very valid ones--just not ones I could entertain), and I would not dispute their right to leave.

In response to others about Stevie leaving the band as a recording entity, to those who think it's a good thing, what makes it particularly heartbreaking is that, in my opinion, Say You Will, In Your Dreams, and 24K Gold are the best albums she has done since Tusk and the best songs since Gypsy. I wish she could gird herself to enter the Mac recording sessions with the confidence she deserves and with the songs I deserve to hear.

**jbrownsjr** · #**362** 01-25-2017, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnL

How interesting that you twisted that whole conversation around from the Stevie board. All that was said was that if both were released at the same time the poster believed that Stevie would outsell the other. No one expressed any concern about her album not selling. And absolutely no one expressed any concern about her voice. That is you putting your bad attitude on what was said. And no...I didn't post those threads either. Just stop with the negativity about her. She will always be an integral part of what made up Fleetwood Mac. I don't get why you people cant just let it go. She doesn't want to be in the studio with them anymore...and she has that right. Just like Christine had the right to leave when she did...just like Lindsey had the right to leave when he did. I truly wish she would just leave the band myself if only to stop this back and forth on here.

Didn't twist anything. I'm the one that feels her voice is ruining the demos for me they were once gems. She is just so nasal to my ears. I had problems with Christine's pitch issues during the last tour. And Lindsey sounded great but got a bit scratchy at times. Plus, his range has been a lot smaller. I'd rather Stevie focus on creating a new album and write for her voice today.

As for the sales, it was interesting for me to read someone "guarantee" that 24KGold2 (which really isn't an album or a forthcoming album) would outsell Buckingham/McVie's forthcoming album. It just seemed a bit bitter and made me think her fans, like her, about sales as a means to success. It's about creating, not competing. Where's has her will gone to create new music? Certainly today, no 20 year old is waiting for her to release something to steal it. Plus, I feel you're lucky if someone wants to steal your music, it means you are in demand.

And where did I say that she doesn't have the right to do what she wants? I know she will WANT to do the cash grab tour in 2018. And since she's stated that it's about sales and income, and 20 year olds stealing her music from her, I predict she'll be there for the $1500 tickets and the $2500 premiums they had a the Forum when they sold out 6 shows in Los Angeles.
I won't apologize for having my opinion. Not everyone wants to listen to her current voice on old songs.

HomerMcvie · #**363** 01-25-2017, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnL

How interesting that you twisted that whole conversation around from the Stevie board. All that was said was that if both were released at the same time the poster believed that Stevie would outsell the other. No one expressed any concern about her album not selling. And absolutely no one expressed any concern about her voice. That is you putting your bad attitude on what was said. And no...I didn't post those threads either. Just stop with the negativity about her. She will always be an integral part of what made up Fleetwood Mac. I don't get why you people cant just let it go. She doesn't want to be in the studio with them anymore...and she has that right. Just like Christine had the right to leave when she did...just like Lindsey had the right to leave when he did. I truly wish she would just leave the band myself if only to stop this back and forth on here.

BUT CM and LB LEFT the band! When Chris wanted to record only, and not tour, they didn't accept that. But Stevie wants to tour only, and not record, and that's okay? It's bullsh*t.

Fire the goat!

ryan4136 · #**364** 01-25-2017, 11:14 AM

SN just wants her...she returned parties thrown for her as well.

LB got it, CM got it...she wants it too.

In fairness SN did leave the band too for a time.

SteveMacD · #**365** 01-25-2017, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan4136

In fairness SN did leave the band too for a time.

After Lindsey left and Christine retired from touring.

elle · #**366** 01-25-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

As for the sales, it was interesting for me to read someone "guarantee" that 24KGold2 (which really isn't an album or a forthcoming album) would outsell Buckingham/McVie's forthcoming album. It just seemed a bit bitter and made me think her fans, like her, about sales as a means to success. It's about creating, not competing. Where's has her will gone to create new music? Certainly today, no 20 year old is waiting for her to release something to steal it. Plus, I feel you're lucky if someone wants to steal your music, it means you are in demand.

wow, it's sad that someone would even think of that kind of competition. everything seems to go back to commercial for some people. you'd think fans would care about the music, not the sales.

that said, it almost looks like that's why some people were so adamant that FM 4 not be called Fleetwood Mac - because if you mainly care about sales numbers, the name Fleetwood Mac will always outsell individual members.

elle · #**367** 01-25-2017, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnL

Just like Christine had the right to leave when she did...just like Lindsey had the right to leave when he did.

... Stevie also has the right to leave. yet she is not leaving.

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Originally Posted by JohnL

I truly wish she would just leave the band

you are not alone. we are definitely on the same page there.

**jbrownsjr** · #**368** 01-25-2017, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elle

... Stevie also has the right to leave. yet she is not leaving.

you are not alone. we are definitely on the same page there.

She's leaving and never coming back! lol (until she sees that FMac can make 10 times more than her tour)... then she's on board..

rajtrip · #**369** 01-28-2017, 04:35 PM

I don't know if it will let me post links, but I'd love to see some of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E441RVRWNII

**jbrownsjr** · #**370** 01-28-2017, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rajtrip

I don't know if it will let me post links, but I'd love to see some of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E441RVRWNII

To think that was your first post!!

Excellence of Buckingham/McVie!!

dreamsunwind · #**371** 01-28-2017, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rajtrip

I don't know if it will let me post links, but I'd love to see some of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E441RVRWNII

Bearded/afro Lindsey

lennonfan · #**372** 01-29-2017, 08:53 AM

I hope we get an advance track soon, I can't wait to hear how they're sounding now...and this will make up for my disappointment in the Tango box not having a surround mix, which was the only real focus for me. On to the future!

**jbrownsjr** · #**373** 01-29-2017, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lennonfan

I hope we get an advance track soon, I can't wait to hear how they're sounding now...and this will make up for my disappointment in the Tango box not having a surround mix, which was the only real focus for me. On to the future!

God yes... I want to hear something... Hopefully in the next month or so.

Ench · #**374** 01-30-2017, 04:29 AM

I haven't posted here much, and not for a long while.

However, I'm very excited by the Buckingham McVie record. I really really like Lindsay's recent solo albums and Say You Will. More of the same except with Christine instead of Stevie would be great, IMHO.

BTW: Someone asked above why it was OK for Nicks to not record but tour, but not OK previously for McVie to record but not tour. If I remember correctly, Buckingham was concerned that Christine's songs to be the singles, but then they would not be able to play them live. If Nicks doesn't record but does tour, then that problem does not occur. Particularly since the album will not be labelled Fleetwood Mac.

ryan4136 · #**375** 01-30-2017, 01:42 PM

I was under the impression that Christine left the band for the opposite reason. She didn't want to tour anymore. Given she wasn't going to be on the road it was mutually agreed that having her part of the album as a full fledged member didn't fit.